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People who defend Offshoring of American jobs should be afraid to live in America.

Le Jacquelope Mon, July 9, 2012 - 4:20 AM by Le Jacq...

We've got no more room for that crap and few citizens remain who tolerate those who defend it.

It's time we flexed our majority muscles and forced our way on this country rather than having an elite few force their idiocy upon us. One side must fall and it ain't gonna be us. We're coming close to the end of the time where arguing is relevant. The time for action is near.


You find a free trader who dares express their opinion in real life? Point them out. Shame them. Brand them online and offline. Let their friends and family - people whose jobs and wages have been lost or cut by offshoring - see who they are and shun them.

The tactic is simple and it is totally non-violent: Americans need to start MAKING FUN of them and OUTING AND SHAMING them in public until the sheer STRESS and ALIENATION forces them to find another country to ruin with their free trade insanity.


Put an end to discriminating against American workers. Make all defenders of offshoring uncomfortable, and most importantly, unwelcome. No more discrimination against American workers. This ends now.

Watch what is happening to Mitt Romney and behold. His presidential campaign will be hung by the noose of his offshoring antics. We have ALREADY DRIVEN POLITICIANS INTO HIDING their records on trade. Now that is no longer enough. We need to SHINE THE LIGHT on their defense of globalism and replace them with politicians who will fight for the American worker. No arguments, no apologies, no backing down. This. Is. WAR.


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Marc Mon, July 9, 2012 - 9:35 AM by Marc

No one is going to be shamed into not offshoring when millions is at stake. The reason there is offshoring of American jobs is very simple. The American workforce can't compete in many cases, I hate to bring up labor unions again but it's pretty well documented that their success in labor negotiation has also helped kill American competitiveness. Reform is needed so labor unions and employers are partners in success instead of working against each other. Labor has become nearly twice as expensive as in some other countries that also do a better and faster job because of less bureaucracy and red tape. Last year the City of San Francisco outsourced the building of a bridge to China because it would save them $400 million and it would get done faster. When corporations outsource that isn't good, but when our own government is doing it then you know it's getting even worse.


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Tokin Mon, July 9, 2012 - 9:49 AM by Tokin

Hasnt EVERY president since the 70'S shipped american jobs over seas OR south of the 'border'?? Our government continues to GIVE BILLIONS to countrys that hate us, why do we alow that??


American workers are quite competitive.

Le Jacquelope Mon, July 9, 2012 - 11:51 AM by Le Jacq...

The problem is that we're competing against dollar-a-day wages. And your argument utterly fails to explain why non-union jobs go overseas.

And if pro-offshoring people will not be shamed... then perhaps they should be physically intimidated and FORCED out of the country.

Perhaps we need a rebellion. There are far more of us than there are of you. And we're pissed off. You should be concerned about that.


Re: People who defend Offshoring of American jobs should be afraid to live in America.

Le Jacquelope Mon, July 9, 2012 - 12:01 PM by Le Jacq...

Because we're not pissed off enough?


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Cyrarose Mon, July 9, 2012 - 3:01 PM by Cyrarose

hello, just buy American products.


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Marc Mon, July 9, 2012 - 4:50 PM by Marc

I went to a shop recently that sold all American made products. And everything was at least five times more expensive then what you might find at say, Walmart. I think the majority of people do want to buy American, but just can't afford to most of the time.


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Tokin Mon, July 9, 2012 - 7:11 PM by Tokin

I agree, most would rather buy american if not for the price. There has to be a middle ground between the dollar a day wage and the over paid union employee. If you notice, the high priced american made stuff is 'made with union pride'. Our government makes it very tough to compete.


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Gerbil Tue, July 10, 2012 - 8:48 AM by Gerbil

higher prices for quality or lower prices for shit and supporting china?


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Marc Tue, July 10, 2012 - 4:28 PM by Marc

"higher prices for quality or lower prices for shit and supporting china? "

I don't think the "Quality" argument works anymore. I have a friend who hates buying cheap Chinese stuff but that's all he can afford to do. I don't really find the quality of US-made products to be that much better then something made in anyplace other then China in most cases.


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Marc Tue, July 10, 2012 - 4:49 PM by Marc

I think the story of the bridges is a good one and worth repeating because you are not talking about Tshirts or shoes. You are talking about a bridges, in an American City, under the supervision of our own government, and they still go to China. If you read the story, China could not only do it for cheaper (400 million savings, $12 per hour vs $30 per hour labor cost), they could be it faster and with better quality.
US labor is only being used for paving and so forth because anything using federal funds must use union labor.
The whole story reflects a pretty sad state of the US labor market capabilities.


Re: People who defend Offshoring of American jobs should be afraid to live in America.

Le Jacquelope Wed, July 11, 2012 - 10:06 PM by Le Jacq...

China can do bridges cheaper, but you have nothing to back up your claim that they can do it better. Please try again.


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Le Jacquelope Wed, July 11, 2012 - 10:14 PM by Le Jacq...

Made in the USA isn't all that expensive compared to China. American worker productivity is 10 times greater than that of a Chinese worker.

Our government makes it tough to compete because it doesn't allow our workers to have to live in cages like Chinese workers.


The TARIFF argument works just fine.

Le Jacquelope Wed, July 11, 2012 - 10:20 PM by Le Jacq...

People who want Chinese-made products can go move to China and buy it there.


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Abraxas Thu, July 12, 2012 - 12:13 AM by Abraxas

Obama Administration Outsourced Jobs with Stimulus Funding

By Matt Cover
July 10, 2012

(CNSNews.com) – The Obama administration allowed millions of dollars in federal stimulus funds to go to foreign companies, despite recent statements by President Barack Obama that he opposes “shipping jobs overseas."

“I want to stop giving tax breaks to companies that ship jobs and factories overseas,” Obama said in a speech in Cedar Rapids, Iowa on Tuesday.

“As long as I’m president, I will keep fighting to make sure jobs are located here in the United States of America,” said Obama.

However, Obama’s 2009 economic stimulus spending law--the $787 billion American Recovery and Reivnestment Act--gave millions of federal dollars to foreign companies or funded domestic companies that built factories in foreign countries or bought foreign products.

Read more: cnsnews.com/news/article...mulus-funding


Re: People who defend Offshoring of American jobs should be afraid to live in America.

Gerbil Thu, July 12, 2012 - 10:47 AM by Gerbil

then what's the problem, exactly? jingoism and patriotism? if china can make a better product for cheaper, where's the problem? obviously, the answer is jobs. but again, if american products are shittier than chinese products, why go for an american product other than blind patriotism?


Re: The TARIFF argument works just fine.

Gerbil Thu, July 12, 2012 - 10:48 AM by Gerbil

yeah, because that's TOTALLY sensible and rational.


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Marc Thu, July 12, 2012 - 11:48 AM by Marc

Read they article. That is what the officials say.


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Marc Thu, July 12, 2012 - 1:00 PM by Marc

olympics.yardbarker.com/blog/o...206375


Team USA's Opening and Closing Ceremony uniforms were made in China
1 hour ago by SteveDel

On Tuesday, the US Olympic Committee officially unveiled the threads Team USA will be wearing during the Opening and Closing Ceremony Parade at the London Olympics this summer. As usual, the uniforms have drawn mixed reviews. Similar to the way people felt at the Beijing Olympics in 2008, some are saying they wreak of military propaganda while others appreciate the nostalgic feel of the navy blazers, white pants and berets. Those are simply opinions, but the fact of the matter is the uniforms are made in China.
While they were designed in America by the famous Ralph Lauren himself, the US athletes will be covered in head to toe with garments and accessories that are labeled “Made in China.” Like many others, US fashion designer Nanette Lepore said she is shocked that the uniform manufacturing was outsourced.
“Why shouldn’t we have pride not only in the American athletes, but in the American manufacturers and laborers who are the backbone of our country?” Lepore asked according to ABC News. “Why? What’s wrong? Why was that not a consideration?”
In fact, Lepore says US manufacturers could have made the uniforms much cheaper. The men’s uniforms cost close to $2,000 each while the women’s are nearly $1,500, with the men’s blazers and shirts making up nearly $1,000 of that price and the women’s blazers and skirts doing the same. When ABC News reached out to the US Olympic committee for comment, they gave a very generic answer.
“The U.S. Olympic team is privately funded and we’re grateful for the support of our sponsors. We’re proud of our partnership with Ralph Lauren, an iconic American company.”
The US is not the first country to be upset with their Olympic uniforms (see Great Britain’s uniforms here). Americans are simply displeased for a different reason.


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Marc Thu, July 12, 2012 - 1:11 PM by Marc

Obama's criticism of Romney for outsourcing done by the companies owned by Bain Capital always struck me as not comparing apples to apples and reaching for straws.


and one should be afraid of WHOM exactly? [Please put that in writing; make it precise]

tuk tuk Thu, July 12, 2012 - 4:58 PM by tuk tuk

Look at the practically non-existent drug use on China, and the HUGE apetite for illegal narcotic drugs in America.

So you want someone ranting on crack to make your goods, or a hardworking, clean, radiant, smiling Chinese worker who owns the future?

Better go there and learn something and bring it back!


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Marc Fri, July 13, 2012 - 4:32 PM by Marc

Forgot about the cages part. And of course the whipping and torture chambers and such.