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I thought all the hostility was coming from the McCain camp
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To make the point explicit, there are evil yahooos on both sides
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To make the point explicit, there are evil yahooos on both sides
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 4:45 PMJust what we need. Politically inclined robbers. Not only will they rob you, but they will maim based on political preference.
Oh so very wrong.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 4:54 PMno doubt about it. evil people on both parties. both parties are somewhat evil. Civilization is rotten.
So now that we have that figured out, are we going to just keep each other informed how bad it is, or are we going to try to work together to fix it?
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 6:17 PMI was assuming "bitch" -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 6:29 PMBarrack -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 6:56 PMI wonder if she was knocked out? Because I wouldn't just stand there and allow someone to carve my face like a pumpkin -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:14 PMI guess she felt it was a fitting alternative to having your throat cut -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:34 PMYeah...really what can you do when someone is pointing a knife in your face? I'm going to assume this woman wasn't some kind of incognito shaolin monk. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 9:01 PMThis would have worked...
www.youtube.com/watch
In Lego version:
www.youtube.com/watch
In real-life:
www.youtube.com/watch
Wow, there's all kinds of that stuff on YouTube:
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 9:03 PM -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 1:45 PM
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:35 PM"What does the "B" stand for? Anyone know?"
Hell, it could have been the dude's initial...who knows.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 4:51 PMThis is absolutely inexcusable, but does not change the fact that *most* of the extremists are voting for McCain. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 6:17 PM"*most* of the extremists are voting for McCain. "
You can't support that -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:26 PM"You can't support that "
No, I can't support it with facts, it's just my opinion based on what I've seen thus far. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:29 PM
jesus h christ! one woman supposedly is fucked up by some weirdo and this merits an argument?
it's like I woke up and the world turned stupid.
people are assholes. and most of them in this country seem to be either die-hard democrats or die-hard republicans. end of story.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:32 PM"oh. one more thing. go fuck yourselves. "
Can I talk you into helping me?
*wink*
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 8:44 PMThought says:
"it's like I woke up and the world turned stupid. "
You're just noticing this now?
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 5:34 PMoh please. He was robbing her already THEN apparently got mad when he saw the bumper sticker. There's nothing to suggest anything more than it was a random robbery and assault.
<cough>
Willie Horton
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 6:16 PM"THEN apparently got mad when he saw the bumper sticker. There's nothing to suggest anything more than it was a random robbery and assault."
These two statements contradict each other. If he got mad enough to maim her because of her bumper sticker after he robbed her, then obviously it's more than just robbery.
"Willie Horton"
What does Willie Horton committing armed robbery and rape because Mike Dukakis was stupid enough to insist on furloughing lifers convicted of murder have to do with anything? -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 6:21 PMuh, Dukakais never started the furlough campaign...it was started by a Republican
The guy was already in the midst of robbing/assaulting the girl. Nowhere in the article does it actually state that the attack was due to her bumper sticker. She was after all, at a bloody ATM machine.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 6:55 PMShe wasn't robbed because of the bumper sticker. She was robbed because she was at an ATM. There is a video attached that you can view.
Apparently the robber got mad(der) because of the bumper sticker and chose to maim the lady. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:36 PM"Apparently the robber got mad(der) because of the bumper sticker and chose to maim the lady."
Which takes it from a robbery into something else.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:14 PM"uh, Dukakais never started the furlough campaign...it was started by a Republican "
The original program didn't include convicted murderers serving life sentences without possibility of parole. That change was Dukakis' doing, and he vetoed a legislative effort to preclude such lifers from the program. So Dukakis is uniquely responsible for letting Horton, a convicted murderer serving life without parole, loose on the public.
"The guy was already in the midst of robbing/assaulting the girl. Nowhere in the article does it actually state that the attack was due to her bumper sticker. She was after all, at a bloody ATM machine."
Incorrect. Reread the article. The maiming was because of the bumper sticker AFTER the robbery
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:08 PMhere's one of the story's top spinners
sarahsarmy.blogspot.com/
this gem from said blog
Edgar Cayce's Prediction
America’s first communist president is shot and killed in the Oval Office just weeks after his inauguration in 2009.... -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:16 PMHmm.
michellemalkin.com/2008/10/...ly-weird/
Why that McCain volunteer’s “mutilation” story smells awfully weird
By Michelle Malkin • October 23, 2008 06:43 PM
Throughout my career, I’ve covered dozens of fake hate crimes — campus hate crime hoaxes, Muslim hate crime hoaxes, fake noose hangings, etc., etc., etc. Most were perpetrated by liberals, but there have been some shameful ones on our side of the aisle as well.
I’ve reported on the great lengths that warped attention-seekers have gone to in perpetrating fake hate crimes, including beating themselves up, carving swastikas on their dorm room doors and walls, locking themselves in bathroom stalls, and burning down their own houses.
Which is why I’m not jumping up and down with outrage over Drudge-promoted story of a McCain volunteer claiming to have been attacked by a black man whom she accused of carving a “B” in her face after spotting her McCain bumper sticker.
She refused medical treatment after reporting the incident to police. Why on earth would she do that?
Look at her face (photo via Hot Air):
What’s wrong with the “B?”
I share my reader Kathy’s suspicions on this. She writes:
Notice how the “B” is backwards on the right cheek……if you were looking in a mirror and put it on your own face…it would appear backwards and would probably be on your own right cheek (due to most folks are right handed)……she put it on her own face but forgot it would show up backwards.
She may have been robbed and beaten but I think she added the “B”….
Take a close look at the picture.
Maaaaybe the alleged robber straddled her upside-down while carving it into her face.
Maybe.
But I’ve got my doubts.
The woman has been identified as GOP volunteer Ashley Todd of Texas. Her Twitter page is here and I find it, well, odd.
This seems to me to have shades of Paul Mirecki (note that there was a photo in that case, too), Sarah Marshak, and Tawana Brawley all over it.
If I’m wrong, I’ll apologize. If I’m right, will this woman?
It needs to be said — and since it is not said often enough by those on the other side of the political aisle, I’ll say it again:
We have enough low-lifes and thugs in the world running loose and causing campaign chaos and fomenting hatred without having to make them up. I’ve been blowing the whistle on the real, left-wing rage not on the front page and in-your-face tactics throughout the election season.
Hate crimes hoaxes — by anyone, of any political persuasion, and of any color — diminish us all.
Either way, I hope that Todd gets the help she needs, that the whole truth comes out, and that justice is served on the perpetrator.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 8:09 PMhmmmmm -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 8:36 PMThere are crazies all over the world.
www.red-alerts.com/european...ninjured/
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 12:56 PM>Notice how the “B” is backwards on the right cheek
HA HA you gotta love how stupi the fucking mccain volunteer was in trying this.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 1:05 PMIn a word:
HOAX! and as of this morning a Proven Hoax!
Although this is not the fault of McCain,he sure didnt need crap like this happening right about now,maybe this Woman was attempting to create her own "October Surprise" LOL!
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 7:14 PMGod, people are so fucked up sometimes. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 8:51 PMehh i heard that this story was not accurate and they were retracting the claims. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 9:10 PMHome, links?
Skepticism here:
newsbusters.org/blogs/noel...-cut-b-face
news.aol.com/political-m...fore-attack/
ap.google.com/article/ALe...g9QD940JOC00
"Police said no police photo had been taken of the woman Wednesday, but by Thursday afternoon a purported picture of a woman with a "B" scratched into her cheek was circulating on the Internet. "
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 9:30 PMlink? -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Thu, October 23, 2008 - 9:36 PMthis story sounds a tad fishy
First she refused medical attention. Secondly, it was her that alleged the attack was about her bumper sticker.
This is starting to reek.....
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 12:31 AMThinking about it, you may be right -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 12:50 AMGod dang it, don't make me agree with Michelle Malkin!
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 12:35 AMMaybe we should have all the McCain supporters sew a big scarlet S on their clothing. S for stupid.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 5:28 AMI do not condone this act, or others like it, categorically.
That said, if you want to rob someone, it makes better statistical sense to rob McCain supporters than Obama supporters.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 7:46 AMJust based on the fact this woman refused medical treatment tell us that "something is fishy" about her alleged injuries. When one is attacked and Medics respond to the scene and you refuse to have your injuries documented by medical staff at a Hospital you automatically open yourself up for a fraudulent claim
The "backward B" is the basis for this possible fraudulent attack.
She claims her attacker punched her in her face(giving her the "black eye") then knocked her down on the ground in front of the ATM machine,sat on her chest,and then used a knife to cut the "B" into her face. The "B" would not have been cut into her cheek backwards if this was true becuase it takes more time to create a "backward B" than it does to draw a foreward "B".Most attackers who attack and rob a person have less than 20 seconds to do the entire act,it would have taken her attacker too much time to cut a backward "B" into her cheek. I think she did that to herself in front of a Mirror,either in the reflection of the ATM's TFT Screen or her car's mirror forgetting that a Mirror Image will display numeric letters backwards,unless you write it backwards while looking into the mirror. This whole thing smacks of a do-it-youself fakery to gain attention to oneself
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like a dyson
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 7:55 AM<I thought all the hostility was coming from the McCain camp>
if true, you are the stupidest m/f on this tribe. if not you started your post with an outright lie.
either way, you suck.
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Re: like a dyson
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 8:13 AMAhh, poor baby zoner is lashing out cuz I hurt his feelings -
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Re: like a dyson
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 10:52 AMwww.kdka.com
She confessed to making up the whole story. Police are going to bring charges against the lying little bigot. -
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Re: like a dyson
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 11:03 AMShe looks horrible in the pic, hard to believe she's only twenty. And that "B" sure as hell isn't carved in there.
kdka.com/local/attack.....2.847628.html
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Re: like a dyson
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 11:11 AMWhat an asshole. I apologize for being duped -
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Re: like a dyson
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 12:54 PMRon, it's what was in the news, and we fell for it, and then started questioning it...
Which is much of what goes on in this tribe, everyday.
Except that here, there's usually sides to it...one side posts, the other side questions.
This news story was easy, because we found out later that the whole thing was a fib.
But what about our ongoing issues, politicians, propositions? There are bits that are fibs, parts that are half-truth, and parts that are completely truthful.
We could follow Malkin's example. Malkin was able to point out doubts and suspicions without once saying "That b**** is a f-ing liar". And she said she would apologize if she was wrong.
And you did apologize yourself for believing that story. Very graciously.
Life is so much more pleasant when people are gracious. LOL!
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 11:10 AMConvenient timing for this story considering the GOP's latest desperation is to label Obama "soft on crime"
wtopnews.com/
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 11:21 AMron:
I apologize for being duped
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 11:44 AMI think most of us on both sides took the bait on this one.
OTOH, we all know what can happen when people start crying 'wolf' for not reason.
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what's the consciousness of one brain cell rubbing together?
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 1:19 PM<I think most of us on both sides took the bait on this one.
OTOH, we all know what can happen when people start crying 'wolf' for not reason.
Expect REAL copycats. They could be on either side>
'most' ... right.
i actually first saw this on the drudge report and my first thought was 'yet another drudge attempt to promote what will prove to be a fabricated story'. not only most liberals with two brain cells to rub together almost certainly were instantly suspicious of this story, but even some conservatives lacking that vital second cell were able to smell out a likely fraud.
so where does that leave the likes of you and ron?
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Re: what's the consciousness of one brain cell rubbing together?
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 4:18 PMI like how these genius clairvoyants are coming out of the woodwork only AFTER the admission to declare, "I knew it all along!"
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Re: what's the consciousness of one brain cell rubbing together?
Sat, October 25, 2008 - 12:47 AMRon says:
"I like how these genius clairvoyants are coming out of the woodwork only AFTER the admission to declare, "I knew it all along!"
Hey! I commented that it was odd because I would not stand there and let my face get carved like a pumpkin.
Then again, maybe I was just thinking about Halloween and pumpkins!
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Re: what's the consciousness of one brain cell rubbing together?
Mon, October 27, 2008 - 3:49 AM<I like how these genius clairvoyants are coming out of the woodwork only AFTER the admission to declare, "I knew it all along!" Yeah, that's credible>
Ron, you wanted to believe that it was true, and others did not want to believe it. Which one is worse? I don't know.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 1:09 PMI knew I smelled something bad, just like Joe the Plumber. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 1:11 PMThe whole damn media bought this story and ran with it.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 1:37 PMBecause when someone is beaten and disfigured you tend to assume someone else did it. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 3:34 PM> Because when someone is beaten and disfigured you tend to assume someone else did it.
Thank you.
If she'd merely had some property damaged or her clothes torn or something like that, I might not have been sucked in as easily. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 3:37 PM"If she'd merely had some property damaged or her clothes torn or something like that, I might not have been sucked in as easily. "
I'm assuming that is why she "carved" the "B" in the first place. And apparently gave herself a black eye.
Really, with a situation this bizarre you can't make fun of someone for assuming what logic dictates you'd assume. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 4:29 PM<I'm assuming that is why she "carved" the "B" in the first place. And apparently gave herself a black eye.>
Poor baby. But I do think the black eye was eyeliner pencil. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Sun, October 26, 2008 - 9:00 AM>But I do think the black eye was eyeliner pencil.
Possibly.
Either way, she's certainly ''caught the black eye" now.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 4:04 PMI'm wondering if the backwards B will leave a scar? It's pretty light, but could leave a bit of one. Marked herself for life. Whatta maroon.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 1:38 PMI hope the fact that she made this up becomes a bigger story than her lie about the attack.
Salon.com had this wonderful tibbit:
<Salon was able to find some of Todd's personal Web pages, which we're not linking to in order to protect her privacy. What appears to be her MySpace page, which gives her age as 23 rather than 20, is private. But the quote at the top of it is visible -- it reads, "Lying is the most fun a girl can have without taking her cloths [sic] off, but its [sic] better if you do.">
Man, anyone else reminded of that horrible case a few years back, where a mother drowned her kids then told the police they'd been kidnapped when a black guy stole her car with them in it? Man, the racist default- blame a black guy, everyone knows they're criminals. I wonder what reception her story would have gotten if she claimed a white guy in a polo shirt attacked her.
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 4:13 PMas you know now, this has been shown as a game from the republican camp, not surprising!!! bad karma on them...
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Fri, October 24, 2008 - 7:33 PMOh my gawd what a Marooooon.
Looking in a mirror she carved a B and was so stupid that she didn't think that it'd be backwards.
Then the coal black or make up for the black eye. HELLOOOOO the eye swells up when you get hit that hard. Hers was the same size as the other one.
God must have a special place for people this fucking stupid. Someone's got to have a special place for them.
I think her special place may end up being county lock up for 30 days. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Sat, October 25, 2008 - 12:31 AM> Man, anyone else reminded of that horrible case a few years back, where a mother drowned her kids then told the police they'd been kidnapped when a black guy stole her car with them in it? Man, the racist default- blame a black guy, everyone knows they're criminals. <
A few years back? Ha! It happens all the time. -
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Re: Woman maimed for being a McCain supporter
Sat, October 25, 2008 - 12:46 AMblack angus :A few years back? Ha! It happens all the time.
yup , it does.
only one case or two will make it to the national news..Caysee( spelling?) ,and the other girl in Aruba made it..................1000+ did not. -
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Re: Woman lied about being maimed for being a McCain supporter
Sat, October 25, 2008 - 12:52 AMI am shocked. Shocked, I tell you. Shocked.
Everything is spinning out of control.
Do you think McCain's brother put her up to it?
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Re: Woman lied about being maimed for being a McCain supporter
Sat, October 25, 2008 - 12:55 AMRemember when Morton Downey Jr. carved a swastika in his forehead...using a mirror....same issue. When will people learn?
God bless America.
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Maimed for being a McCain supporter
Tue, October 28, 2008 - 3:52 AMI am not against violence aimed at supporters as a way of getting back at those who fix an election if the election is fixed.
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Re: Maimed for being a McCain supporter
Tue, October 28, 2008 - 8:15 AMI wouldn't say it that way.
I would say that violence is an historically well-precedented way for U.S. Citizens to deal with people who are actively trying to prevent a valid U.S. election result from being applied as policy.
I would also say that it doesn't much matter, in principle, which part of the elections process is being threatened.
Without a reliable elections process, the law, itself, becomes philosophically irrelevant.
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