The success of the surge......began before the surge....... In other words, diplomacy and politics on the ground was the primary tool by which violence was decreased in Iraq. The idea that it was primarily the military surge is a farce being promoted by the main stream media.

Some have said that we can't leave because we are the only thing keeping Sunni and Shia from killing each other. I have always contended that they are perfectly capable of compromising and coming to some sort of fair form of governing, and that there is no military solution that will accomplish this. One of the top commanders in Iraq indicated it was not the surge per se and that it was the political compromises and agreements among the Iraqis. The fact that the "Sunni Awakening" or "Anbar Awakening" switched them from supporting Al Qaeda to fighting them began BEFORE the surge (contrary to McCain's false claims) also backs this up. And the big one of course, the Sunnis ended their boycott of the Malaki govt. and have now teamed up with the Shia in governing. Very little of this was acheieved militarily as McCain and Bush would have you believe.

In case any of you missed it.... McCain tried to indicate that the Sunnis only had the balls for the Anbar Awakening because of the US surge. The problem with that is that the Anbar Awakening started BEFORE one surge troop set foot on the ground. He tried to indicate that Obama was wrong on the history and chided him for it..... Turns out Obama was exactly right.

McCain: "Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening,"

Per the AP: "The problem with McCain's statement -- as Obama's campaign quickly noted -- was that the awakening got under way before President Bush announced in January 2007 his decision to flood Iraq with tens of thousands of additional U.S. troops to help combat violence."

I have said it before and I will say it again.... there is NO military solution. McCain says we need to stay and win....the war.... but who are we at war with? Hussein's govt. is done, the Iraqi people have elected a new govt.......and ARE compromising among themselves. Declare victory.......and get the fuck out of dodge folks..... The Iraqis don't want us to continue the occupation, Malaki agrees with Obama that 2010 is an appropriate time for US troops to have departed..... and now the Bush adminsistration is talking "Time Horizons"..... in addition to diplomacy with Iran..... Obama has sound judement on foreign policy issues....... and McCain can't even keep Sunni and Shia straight, thought that Pakistan was on the Iraqi border, and falsely claimed that political gains in Iraq were due to the surge, but those gains began before the surge.

This just reinforces my opposition to McCain and support for Obama.
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Jeff
Portland
  • McCain On The Anbar Awakening

    by hilzoy

    obsidianwings.blogs.com/obsidi...-a.html

    From a CBS interview with John McCain today:

    "Couric: Senator McCain, Sen. Obama says, while the increased number of U.S. troops contributed to increased security in Iraq, he also credits the Sunni awakening and the Shiite government going after militias. And says that there might have been improved security even without the surge. What's your response to that?

    McCain: I don't know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened. Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening. I mean, that's just a matter of history. Thanks to General Petraeus, our leadership, and the sacrifice of brave young Americans. I mean, to deny that their sacrifice didn't make possible the success of the surge in Iraq, I think, does a great disservice to young men and women who are serving and have sacrificed.

    They were out there. They were protecting these sheiks. We had the Anbar awakening. We now have a government that's effective. We have a legal system that's working, although poorly. And we have progress on all fronts, including an incredible measure of security for the people of Iraq. There will still be attacks. Al Qaeda's not defeated. But the progress has been immense. And to not recognize that, and why it happened, and how it happened, I think is really quite a commentary.

    Couric: A commentary on what?

    McCain: That Sen. Obama does not understand the challenges we face. And … not understand the need for the surge. And the fact that he did not understand that, and still denies that it has succeeded, I think the American people will make their judgment."

    Well, that's funny, because Spencer Ackerman happens to have Marshall McLuhan Col. (now Brigadier General) McFarland right here:

    "With respect to the violence between the Sunnis and the al Qaeda -- actually, I would disagree with the assessment that the al Qaeda have the upper hand. That was true earlier this year when some of the sheikhs began to step forward and some of the insurgent groups began to fight against al Qaeda. The insurgent groups, the nationalist groups, were pretty well beaten by al Qaeda.

    This is a different phenomena that's going on right now. I think that it's not so much the insurgent groups that are fighting al Qaeda, it's the -- well, it used to be the fence-sitters, the tribal leaders, are stepping forward and cooperating with the Iraqi security forces against al Qaeda, and it's had a very different result. I think al Qaeda has been pushed up against the ropes by this, and now they're finding themselves trapped between the coalition and ISF on the one side, and the people on the other."

    That's from September 29, 2006. Here's Gen. McFarland, writing about the surge in 2008, described (pdf) a lot of work in Anbar province throughout the summer of 2006, culminating in a "tipping point" (h/t Seth Colter Walls):

    "On 9 September 2006 Sittar organized a tribal council, attended by over 50 sheiks and the brigade commander, at which he declared the “Anbar Awakening” officially underway. The Awakening Council that emerged from the meeting agreed to first drive AQIZ from Ramadi, and then reestablish rule of law and a local government to support the people. The creation of the Awakening Council, combined with the ongoing recruitment of local security forces, began a snowball effect that resulted in a growing number of tribes either openly supporting the Awakening or withdrawing their support from AQIZ."

    The surge was announced on Jan. 10, 2007. That's four months after the "tipping point" at which the Anbar Awakening really got under way, and three and a half months after the briefing at which McFarland described the success of the Awakening. McFarland and his troops left Anbar in February of 2007 (pdf; p. 51), before any of the surge troops would have arrived. So I don't see how this could possibly be true: "Colonel McFarlane (phonetic) was contacted by one of the major Sunni sheiks. Because of the surge we were able to go out and protect that sheik and others. And it began the Anbar awakening." Unless, as Matt Yglesias notes, McCain credits the surge with enabling time travel.

    Spencer Ackerman says that McCain's statement is "either a lie or professional malpractice for a presidential candidate who is staking his election on his allegedly superior Iraq judgment." Ilan Goldenberg is even harsher:

    "This is not controversial history. It is history that anyone trying out for Commander and Chief must understand when there are 150,000 American troops stationed in Iraq. It is an absolutely essential element to the story of the past two years. YOU CANNOT GET THIS WRONG. Moreover, what is most disturbing is that according to McCain's inaccurate version of history, military force came first and solved all of our problems. If that is the lesson he takes from the Anbar Awakening, I am afraid it is the lesson he will apply to every other crisis he faces including, for example, Iran.

    This is just incredibly disturbing. I have no choice but to conclude that John McCain has simply no idea what is actually happened and happening in Iraq."

    Note to self: if I ever run for President and decide to stake everything on my understanding of one thing, I should familiarize myself with the basic facts about it. I should be especially careful to do this before I say something like this about someone who got it right: "I don't know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened."
    • <<Note to self: if I ever run for President and decide to stake everything on my understanding of one thing, I should familiarize myself with the basic facts about it. I should be especially careful to do this before I say something like this about someone who got it right: "I don't know how you respond to something that is such a false depiction of what actually happened."

      Exactly. And because McCain was trying to indicate that Obama was wrong on this issue and subsequently is not fit to be commander in Chief, that means that McCain was in reality saying that McCain is not fit to be commander in chief because he got it wrong.

      I want to hear from Dustin on this issue... He has indicated that Sunni and Shia have too much bad blood and are too exteremists to compromise with each other. I think he is confusing Al Qaeda extremist views with those of your every day Iraqis. The political gains in the country such as what happened in Anbar clearly demonstrate that I have been right all along and that Sunni and Shia CAN work together. I

      I have said it before and I will say it again, there is no military solution, only a political one.

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