Obama may as well. . .
www.usatoday.com/news/poli...cain_N.htm
By David Jackson, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — John McCain heads to the Pacific Northwest today to propose a climate-change plan, addressing an issue integral to his presidential bid in a region that could be crucial.
The Arizona senator, who often cites climate change as a policy difference with President Bush, plans to renew support for a "cap-and-trade" system that "sets clear limits on all greenhouse gases, while also allowing the sale of rights to excess emissions," according to excerpts of his speech released Sunday.
POLITICS BLOG: McCain's new ad targets global warming
McCain is scheduled to speak at a wind power facility in Portland, Ore. "The facts of global warming demand our urgent attention, especially in Washington," McCain says in the prepared remarks.
McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential candidate, plans to propose a series of goals for reduction of carbon emissions, ending at 60% below 1990 levels by the year 2050.
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A cap-and-trade system would "change the dynamic of our energy economy," McCain says in the prepared remarks. It would encourage industry to adopt or develop cleaner forms of energy, such as wind, solar, nuclear and "clean coal."
After a day in Oregon, McCain also is scheduled to discuss the environment Tuesday in Washington state. Those states are among those "being discussed as target states" for the fall campaign, said Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman.
A native of Oregon, Bounds said voters there like politicians who work with members of the other party. "They tend to be more independent, much more in the framework of John McCain," he said.
The Democratic National Committee, meanwhile, is challenging McCain's credentials as an environmentalist. It developed a list of McCain supporters who have lobbied for oil companies or run companies that have been cited for pollution. DNC Chairman Howard Dean said in a statement that McCain would "appoint right-wing judges bent on gutting environmental regulations."
As a senator, McCain has long backed cap-and-trade legislation. The idea is that companies that exceed emissions caps could buy credits from those that pollute less, giving them time to develop cleaner technologies without cutting production.
Bush has warned that government-imposed restrictions would hurt the U.S. economy. The administration has sponsored meetings among the world's major polluters to work out voluntary plans to reduce heat-trapping emissions.
During a recent appearance on The Daily Show, McCain talked about his differences with the Bush administration, citing climate change along with increases in federal spending and "the failed strategy that was employed in the war in Iraq." Democrats have repeatedly tried to link McCain to the unpopular Republican president.
Bush and McCain do agree on some environmental and energy items. Both support the increased use of nuclear power. Both also say any global climate-change agreement should include China and India, major polluters as well as international economic competitors.
In the prepared remarks, McCain says that if China and India refuse to participate in an international solution to global warming, he would work with other governments to impose some sort of "cost equalization mechanism" on those nations.
Environmental organizations said McCain deserves credit for his cap-and-trade proposals, but some called them inadequate in face of the threats posed by global warming.
One group, the League of Conservation Voters, said McCain has a congressional career score of 24% on environmental issues.
In a statement, Gene Karpinski, the group's president, said it appears that McCain "hopes to use global warming and the environment to distance himself from the Bush administration," but given McCain's record, "that distance can be measured in inches."
. . .better watch these guys. Edwards had a good position on alt energy and Clinton's position was better than Obama's.
www.usatoday.com/news/poli...cain_N.htm
By David Jackson, USA TODAY
WASHINGTON — John McCain heads to the Pacific Northwest today to propose a climate-change plan, addressing an issue integral to his presidential bid in a region that could be crucial.
The Arizona senator, who often cites climate change as a policy difference with President Bush, plans to renew support for a "cap-and-trade" system that "sets clear limits on all greenhouse gases, while also allowing the sale of rights to excess emissions," according to excerpts of his speech released Sunday.
POLITICS BLOG: McCain's new ad targets global warming
McCain is scheduled to speak at a wind power facility in Portland, Ore. "The facts of global warming demand our urgent attention, especially in Washington," McCain says in the prepared remarks.
McCain, the presumptive GOP presidential candidate, plans to propose a series of goals for reduction of carbon emissions, ending at 60% below 1990 levels by the year 2050.
FIND MORE STORIES IN: Washington | President Bush | Iraq | China | Arizona | Republican | Oregon | India | Portland | John McCain | Democratic National Committee | Pacific Northwest | Daily Show | League of Conservation Voters | Tucker Bounds | Gene Karpinski
A cap-and-trade system would "change the dynamic of our energy economy," McCain says in the prepared remarks. It would encourage industry to adopt or develop cleaner forms of energy, such as wind, solar, nuclear and "clean coal."
After a day in Oregon, McCain also is scheduled to discuss the environment Tuesday in Washington state. Those states are among those "being discussed as target states" for the fall campaign, said Tucker Bounds, a McCain campaign spokesman.
A native of Oregon, Bounds said voters there like politicians who work with members of the other party. "They tend to be more independent, much more in the framework of John McCain," he said.
The Democratic National Committee, meanwhile, is challenging McCain's credentials as an environmentalist. It developed a list of McCain supporters who have lobbied for oil companies or run companies that have been cited for pollution. DNC Chairman Howard Dean said in a statement that McCain would "appoint right-wing judges bent on gutting environmental regulations."
As a senator, McCain has long backed cap-and-trade legislation. The idea is that companies that exceed emissions caps could buy credits from those that pollute less, giving them time to develop cleaner technologies without cutting production.
Bush has warned that government-imposed restrictions would hurt the U.S. economy. The administration has sponsored meetings among the world's major polluters to work out voluntary plans to reduce heat-trapping emissions.
During a recent appearance on The Daily Show, McCain talked about his differences with the Bush administration, citing climate change along with increases in federal spending and "the failed strategy that was employed in the war in Iraq." Democrats have repeatedly tried to link McCain to the unpopular Republican president.
Bush and McCain do agree on some environmental and energy items. Both support the increased use of nuclear power. Both also say any global climate-change agreement should include China and India, major polluters as well as international economic competitors.
In the prepared remarks, McCain says that if China and India refuse to participate in an international solution to global warming, he would work with other governments to impose some sort of "cost equalization mechanism" on those nations.
Environmental organizations said McCain deserves credit for his cap-and-trade proposals, but some called them inadequate in face of the threats posed by global warming.
One group, the League of Conservation Voters, said McCain has a congressional career score of 24% on environmental issues.
In a statement, Gene Karpinski, the group's president, said it appears that McCain "hopes to use global warming and the environment to distance himself from the Bush administration," but given McCain's record, "that distance can be measured in inches."
. . .better watch these guys. Edwards had a good position on alt energy and Clinton's position was better than Obama's.
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:11 PM<<Both support the increased use of nuclear power. Both also say any global climate-change agreement should include China and India, major polluters as well as international economic competitors.>>
I actually agree with this. I've yet to see any credible plan to reduce green house gases without nuclear playing some role. China and India have to come on board. Either we're serious about this or we're not. -
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:18 PMMccain/Nuclear Holocaust 08! -
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 1:53 PM
Nuclear power can be good, nobody wants in their back yard. If Yucca Mountain could have gone online, at least that
would be a step in the right direction.
But with no national policy to deal with nuclear waste, will, or should, another reactor every be built?
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:06 PM
The big problem with nuke power is that a) we have nowhere to put the nuke waste, b) no one wants to host the nuke waste areas in the future.
What should we do with the waste?
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:39 PM<<Nuclear power can be good, nobody wants in their back yard. If Yucca Mountain could have gone online, at least that would be a step in the right direction.>>
Yucca Mountain won't go forward as long a Reid is majority leader, him being from Nevada. I'm not sure it should anyways. Recent studies show there is a danger of the waste contaminating the water table through fault pathways. The flow direction of the subterranean waters trends toward Las Vegas. Studies are ongoing to try to come up with a containment vessel which will last the time needed for this waist to become benign.
That said, I think the waste problem can be solved but it has to be tackled. Right now it's a political stalemate with the right for Yucca Mountain and the left against it. When the studies were started under Reagan, there were 10 possible sites. They need to revisit the plausibility of these sites. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 6:27 PM<That said, I think the waste problem can be solved but it has to be tackled.>
Absolutely true. No doubt. But, it'd take some political will to piss someone off. No politician likes to piss anyone off. And, when the waste finally goes to some state that gets bought off, the far-Left will then start on whomever put the waste there saying how the 'poor people were being taken advantage of with this waste...blah blah blah.......'
There's no easy answer. Why can't we just dig a huge hole WAY underground - like, miles down where there's no aqifier or fault line anywhere near?
I guess this is a complex issue, 'eh?
<Nuclear, coupled with other renewable, could be a part of our energy solution if done right. >
True, a decade ago, the Japanese figured out how to make these little pinball-sized, glass-enclosed 'pills' and then put all those together to start the fission. That way, it was MUCH more difficult for there to be a uncontrolled situation. No leakage, no contamination. Very smart.
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:03 PM>> Mccain/Nuclear Holocaust 08! <<
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:37 PMChrist! McCain is trying to be honest and do the right thing in the middle of an election. yep.
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:43 PM
>> How?...by flip-flopping on every issue? <<
it's funny. how everyone seems to be using the same words nowadays... imagine sacrificing your individuality for something as mundane and meaningless as a presidential election. I mean I have to do it for about 40 hours a week. but at least I'm compensated. you jack-offs give it up for free.
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 10:02 PM>> I actually agree with this. I've yet to see any credible plan to reduce green house gases without nuclear playing some role. <<
it is always a bad omen when bright people actually start agreeing with a candidate.
Christ! McCain is trying to be honest and do the right thing in the middle of an election. yep. he's going to lose this one for sure.
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Re: McCain Supports Nukes. . .
Mon, May 12, 2008 - 3:03 PMHillary Clinton is the closest thing to an anti-nuclear power president that we are ever going to see. Obama is pro-nuclear, and McCain is even worse.
Nuclear power is a bad idea all around. It is just a convenient front for helping to pay part of very big bill for nuclear weapons production.
It is a fact that the "nuclear power industry" is nothing but a spin-off from the the nuclear weapons industry and that generating electricity from nuclear power is financially insane on it's own - AND an environmental disaster. -
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Mon, May 12, 2008 - 4:58 PM
I don't know... I think carbon emissions could end up being bigger environmental problem than nuclear waste.
Nuclear waste is very dangerous, but also very concentrated and is conceivably containable.
Carbon is not concentrated, and impossible to contain.
Nuclear, coupled with other renewable, could be a part of our energy solution if done right.
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