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I'm here with some friends and we cannot remember ever if Iran has ever initiated a war first.
Anyone know the answer?
We already know they have not violated any nuclear treaties.
Thanks.
Anyone know the answer?
We already know they have not violated any nuclear treaties.
Thanks.
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 4:56 PMThe Persian Wars, which began when the Persians conquered the Greek ethnic Lydians in 546 bce. -
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 4:59 PMIf We were to say, in modern times, say since the early 1600's. -
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 5:21 PMHere is another long post. Actually the whole site is a good read. It seems pretty sympathetic but the modern history is accurate from what I know.
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www.mage.com/TLbody.html
Safavid Dynasty
1501-1524 -- Shah Ismail I united all of Persia under Iranian leadership after some nine centuries of foreign or fragmented rule. Being a Shi'ite, he declared Shi'ism as the state religion and converted virtually all of Persia and some surrounding areas under his control from Sunnism to Shi'ism.Kerman Mosque Shi'ism became a medium for the Persians to differentiate themselves from the rest of the Islamic world, in particular from the Sunni Ottomans. To ensure its continuation as the state religion, the Safavid kings in general supported the Shi'ite clergy.
1587-1629 -- The reign of Shah Abbas the Great marked the pinnacle of the Safavid dynasty. He developed a disciplined standing army and defeated the Ottomans. In 1598, he chose Isfahan as his capital. A strong supporter of the arts, especially architecture, he adorned Isfahan with some of the finest Islamic monuments in the world. He built a number of mosques, schools, bridges and a major bazaar. During his reign, Persian craftsmen and artists excelled in creating fine silks, cloths, porcelain, metalwork, calligraphy, miniatures and carpets.
1501-1722 -- The two contemporary Islamic rivals of the Safavids, the Ottomans in Anatolia and the Mughals in India, relied on Persian artisans and poets for much of their arts and literature. Persian was the language of choice in both of their courts. This preference is evident from their poems and miniature paintings whose texts were almost exclusively written in Persian. Persian influence was especially prevalent in India, where it was also the cultural and administrative language; it remained so until the colonization of India by the British. The Taj Mahal's principle architect was a Persian named Ustad Isad and its architectural style was significantly influenced by Persian designs.
1722 -- Mahmoud Khan, an Afghan chieftain and a vassal of the Safavids, attacked Persia and captured Isfahan with virtually no resistance, thus ending the Safavid dynasty.
Mashad Mosque1729-1747 -- Nader Shah, an officer of the Safavids, was able to expel the Afghans and reunite the country. He was a brilliant military strategist, defeating the Ottomans, Russians, Indians and various local tribes. In his invasion of Mughal India, Nader Shah captured two of the world's greatest diamonds, the Sea of Light (now in Iran) & the Mountain of Light (now part of the British Crown Jewels). Nader Shah became increasingly paranoid and was assassinated by his own guardsmen. After his death, his great military machine collapsed.
1747-1779 -- Karim Khan Zand gained control of central and southern parts of Iran. He was a compassionate ruler who refused to assume the title of Shah and referred to himself as the Representative of the People. He fought extensively with a rival tribe, the Qajars. After Karim Khan Zand's death in 1779, Aqa Mohammad Khan Qajar gradually vanquished the Zands and established the Qajar dynasty.
Qajar Dynasty
1795 -- Although the Qajars succeeded in reuniting the country, they were generally weak and corrupt rulers. The economic and military gap between Iran and the West widened considerably under their reign - especially in light of the Industrial Revolution that was taking place in the West. However, the Qajar period also enjoyed a high degree of artistic excellence, producing some of Iran's finest paintings, tileworks and architectural monuments.
1813 & 1828 -- European imperialism resulted in English and Russian penetration in Iranian affairs. The Qajars lost the Caucasus (present day Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan) to the RussiansQajar in two separate treaties: the Gulistan in 1813 and the Turkmanchay in 1828. As a result of the 1828 treaty, the Qajars were forced to enact the "Capitulation" law, exempting all foreign citizens from Iranian jurisdiction. This law deeply
humiliated the Iranian people.
1851 minister of the Qajars.
1851-1906 -- The Qajars lost central Asian provinces to the Russians and were forced to give up all claims on Afghanistan to the British. These two European powers dominated Iran's trade and manipulated its internal politics. The Qajars and influential members of their court were bribed to sell many valuable concessions to the British, such as the Tobacco Concession which triggered a massive popular uprising.
1906 -- Discontent with Qajar corruption and mismanagement led to the Constitutional Revolution and the establishment of Iran's first parliament or Majles. The constitutional aspirations for a limited monarchy were never to be fully realized. Although Iran never became an actual colony of imperial powers, in 1907 it was divided into two spheres of influence. The north was controlled by Russia and the south and the east by Britain. By the end of WW I, Iran was plunged into a state of political, social and economic chaos.
1921 -- Reza Khan, an officer in the army, staged a coup. Initially the minister of war and then the prime minister, in 1925 Reza Khan decided to become the Shah himself. Although Reza Khan's initial objective was to become the president of a republic, the clergy, fearing a diminished role in a republic, persuaded him to become the Shah.
Pahlavi Dynasty
1925-1941 -- Reza Shah Pahlavi's first priority was to strengthen the authority of the central government by creating a disciplined standing army and restraining the autonomy of the tribal chiefs. He embarked upon a series of modernizing and secular reforms, some of which were designed specifically to break the power of the clergy over Iran's educational and judicial systems. He provided public education, built Iran's first modern university, opened the schools to women and brought them into the work force. He initiated Iran's first industrialization program and dramatically improved Iran's infrastructure by building numerous roads, bridges, state-owned factories and Iran's first Transnational railway. In 1935, he officially requested all foreign governments to no longer refer to Iran as Persia, but as Iran. (The Iranian people themselves had always referred to their country as Iran.) Politically, however, Reza Shah forcibly abolished the wearing of the veil, took away the effective power of the Majles and did not permit any forms of free speech. With the outbreak of WW II, Reza Shah, wanting to remain neutral, refused to side with the Allies.
1941 -- In need of the Trans-Iranian railway to supply the Soviets with wartime materials, the Allies invaded and occupied Iran for the duration of the war. Reza Shah was forced to abdicate in favor of his son Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and died in South Africa in exile in 1944.
1946 -- Under American pressure, the Soviet Union was forced to pull out of Iran's northwestern province. It was the first and only time that Stalin gave back a WWII occupied territory.
1951- 1953 -- Iran's Majles passed a law sponsored by the nationalistic (soon to be prime minister) Dr. Mossadeq to nationalize Iran's oil from British control. The British, enraged by the threat to their oil concessions, froze all of Iran's Sterling assets and took their case to the International Court of Justice. The Court ruled in Iran's favor. Undeterred, the British placed a total trade embargo on Iran and enforced it with their navy, leading to the collapse of Iran's economy. Citing the threat of a communist takeover, British Intelligence and the CIA sponsored a coup to topple Dr. Mossadeq's government. In the midst of the coup, the young Shah, having thought the plan had failed, left the country. Shortly thereafter, Dr. Mossadeq's government was overthrown and the Shah was put back in power.
1962-1963 -- The Shah introduced his White Revolution. It consisted of major land reform, workers' rights and women's suffrage, among other initiatives. His reforms did not develop as planned due to poor execution. In a series of public speeches, Ayatollah Khomeini attacked these reforms. He was arrested and then exiled.
1963-1973 -- Iran experienced rapid economic growth and prosperity coupled with a relatively stable political climate. Iran's infrastructure, public health and educational institutions were expanded. A number of highways, roads, bridges, railroad tracks, water and sewage projects, factories, schools, universities and hospitals were built. Iran's military strength grew and its international prestige was enhanced.
Ayatollah Khomeini.1973-1979 -- The oil embargo quadrupled Iran's oil revenue to $20 billion a year. This new wealth accelerated the Shah's timetable to make Iran "catch up" with the West. The Shah's determination to modernize Iran virtually overnight and at any cost led to cultural shock, alienation of the masses, inflation, corruption, economic bottlenecks, massive urbanization, rising expectations and increasing authoritarianism in dealing with these social, economic and political problems. By the late 1970s, the Shah's opponents, of all political affiliations, united behind Ayatollah Khomeini. The Shah was overthrown in 1979 by the Islamic Revolution and died in Egypt a year later. After 2,500 years of monarchy, Iran's government was changed to a theocratic republic, The Islamic Republic of Iran.
(This publication focuses on the history of Iran and does not address contemporary events.)
Persian culture has survived foreign occupation, devastation and intolerance. A number of reasons account for its vitality, including its rich poetic tradition. By addressing the fears and desires of mankind, Persian poetry can touch the heart of all peoples regardless of their race, culture, religion, language or even era. Over seven centuries ago, Sa'di, one of Iran's greatest poets, wrote the following verses:
"The children of Adam are limbs of each other
Having been created of one essence.
When the calamity of time afflicts one limb
The other limbs cannot remain at rest.
If thou hast no sympathy for the troubles of others
Thou art unworthy to be called by the name of a man."
Sa'di, poet of Persia -
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 5:44 PMThanks Nolen. This is exactly what I was looking for.
Bookmarking this on Tribe is a lot easier and will come in handy later.
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Tue, November 21, 2006 - 1:33 AMWow, very nice Nolen!
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 9:06 PMAccording to Richard Clarke they were responsible for the Khobar Towers bombing, as well as terrorist attacks in South America and Berlin.
I dunno if you'd call that starting a war, but it comes damn close. -
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 10:11 PM<<I dunno if you'd call that starting a war, but it comes damn close.>>
Huh, good point. -
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Tue, November 21, 2006 - 6:52 AMClarke is an interesting guy. The book is a quick read, and what comes through is his belief that President Clinton and his staff did yeoman work on anti-terrorism. Much of the trouble they got into (WACO) was the result of Louis Freeh's antipathy for the Clinton White House.
The other point that he makes is that Iran is, and has been, a very serious threat to this country. This is just one of the reasons I was so opposed to the war in Iraq.
Oh yea - one last thing that's VERY curious - that there remains more than circumstantial evidence that al Qaida hay have played a role in the Oklahoma City bombing. Terry Nichols was in the same small Indonesian town at the same time as Ramzi Yousef, and he made several calls to this town after his girlfriend had relocated to the States. Clarke isn't saying that aQ is responsible - he calls it a conspiracy theory that cannot be dismissed.
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 5:11 PMWars affecting Iran 945-1258
934
945
979
983 ff.
990
999
1029
1035
1037
1040
1042
1051
1055
1062
1071
1141
1150
1194
1215
1219-1223
1237
1242-1243
1256-1258
Buyid Conquest of Shiraz
Buyid conquest of Baghdad; Buyid Dynasty ruled western Iran, Azerbaijan, Iraq
Buyids took Mosul
Buyid Dynasty Succession Struggles
Uqaylid Arabs took Mosul from Buyids
Ghaznavids took Khorasan from Samanids
Rayy (near Tehran) fell to the Ghaznavids (previously Buyid)
Seljuk Turks entered Khorasan
Seljuk Turks took Nishapur
Seljuk Turks defeated Ghaznavids in Battle of Dandanqan, annexed Khorasan
Seljuk Turks conquered Rayy area from Ghaznavids
Seljuk Turks conquered Isfahan area
Seljuk Turks took Baghdad (hitherto Buyid)
Seljuk Turks took Shiraz (hitherto Buyid)
Seljujk victory over Byzantinians in Battle of Mantzikert
Qara Qitai defeated Seljuks in Battle of Qatwan
Ghurids destroyed Ghazna
Seljuk Shah killed in battle against Khwarizm Shah
Khwarizm Shah conquered Ghurid possessions in Afghanistan, eastern Iran
First Mongol Raid of Iran
Mongol conquest of Isfahan
Mongol Raid of Anatolia: Seljuk Sultanate of Rum submitted
Mongol Conquest of remainder of Iran, and of Iraq
Wars affecting Persia / Iran 1258-1501
1258-1335
1260
1281
1282
1284
1291
1295
1295
1299-1303
1335
1381
1389
1393
1395
1398
1400-1402
1406-1407
1409
1414
1416
1419
1420-1434
1447
1449
1458
1460
1467
1469
1473
1501
Wars with the Khanate of the Blue (Golden) Horde
Battle of Ain Jalut; Mongol defeat at the hands of the Mamluks
Mamluks repelled Ilkhanid Invasion (Battle of Homs)
Succession Conflict in the Ilkhanate
llkhan Teguder (a Muslim convert) toppled in a rebellion
Anti-Semitic riots in Iraq, Iran
Rebellion ousted Khan Gaykhatu
Rebellion ousted Khan Baidu
Mamluks repelled Ilkhanid invasion
Succession struggles resulted in fragmentation of Ilkhanate
Sarbardar State in Eastern Iran, centered on Sabzavar, conquered by Tamerlane
Tamerlane raided the Khanate of the Golden Horde
Tamerlane conquered fragments of Ilkhanate
Tamerlane raided the Khanate of the Golden Horde
Tamerlane raided Northern India, sacked Delhi
Tamerlane's war on the Ottoman Empire
Shah Rukh, from his base in Herat, took Mazandaran
Shah Rukh took Samarkand
Shah Rukh took Fars
Shah Rukh took Kerman
Qara Qoyunlu invaded Persia
Shah Rukh fought three campaigns against Qara Qoyunlu; temporarily took Azerbaijan
Shah Rukh died; his Empire disintegrated, son Ulugh Beg attempting to establish his rule
Ulugh Beg executed after a rebellion
Qara Qoyunlu temporarily occupied Timurid capital of Herat
Safavid campaign against Armenia, Georgia terminated by Shirwan Shah who defeated Safavids
Aq Qoyunlu conquered Qara Qoyunlu
Timurids failed to take Azerbijan from Aq Qoyunlu
Aq Qoyunlu defeated by Ottomans
Safavid victory over Aq Qoyunlu
Wars of Safavid Persia, 1501-1736
1507
1507-1508
1507-1508
1510
1514
1524-1537
1526-1555
1545
1577-1590
1587
1591
1598
1602-1612
1616-1618
1622
1622
1623-1638
1638
1648
1709
1722
1722-1724
1722-1727
1726-1736
1730-1736
Portuguese capture of Hormuz
Uzbeks conquered Herat, Khorasan
Safavids conquered Diyarbakir, Baghdad, Iraq
Safavids conquered Herat, Khorasan from Uzbeks
Safavid defeat at hands of Ottomans in Battle of Chaldiran; loss of territory in E. Anatolia
Repulsion of 5 Uzbek invasions into Khorasan
Ottoman-Persian War; Baghdad conquered by Ottomans in 1534, Basra in 1546
Safavid conquest of Qandahar, from Mughal Empire
Ottoman-Persian War; Ottoman conquest of Azerbaijan
Rebels ousted Shah Muhammad Khudabanda, enthroned his son Abbas
Qandahar lost to Mughal Empire
Victory over Uzbeks; Herat regained
Ottoman-Persian War, loss of Azerbaijan, Caucasus area to Persians
Ottoman-Persian War
Safavids took Hormuz from Portuguese
Qandahar gained from Mughal Empire
Ottoman-Persian War
Qandahar lost to Mughal Empire
Qandahar regained from Mughal Empire
Qandahar lost to the Ghilzay Afghans
Afghan conquest of Isfahan; Safavid Dynasty terminated
Russian invasion
Ottoman-Persian War; Ottoman occupation of Georgia, Azerbaijan, Shirvan
Expulsion of the Afghans and reunification of Persia by Nadir Shah
Ottoman-Persian War; Azerbaijan lost to Persia
Wars of Zand, Afshar, Qajar Persia, 1736-1907
1736-1744
1738-1739
1740
1740es
1743-1747
1750es
1756
1766
1776-1779
1783
1795
1796
1796-1798
1797
1804-1813
1816
1821-1822
1826-1828
1836-1838
1856-1857
1863
1903
1907-1911
Persian Occupation of Oman
Invasion of Afghanistan, Punjab, sack of Delhi
Expedition against the Uzbeks
Anti-Persian rebellions in Azerbaijan
Ottoman-Persian War
Wars between Azeri Khanates
Bukhara seceded from Persian Empire
Persian force conquered Fort Mosselstein on Kharg Island from the V.O.C.
Ottoman-Persian War; temporary Persian occupation of Basra
Persian invasion of Qatar
Qajar army invaded Azerbaijan
Russian Army invaded Azerbaijan; withdrew upon death of Catherine II.
Qajars defeated, terminated Zand Dynasty in Iran, Afshar Dynasty in Khorasan
Qajar army invaded Azerbaijan
War with Russia
Afghan-Persian War
Ottoman-Persian War
War with Russia
War with Afghanistan
Persian occupation of Herat, followed by a British invasion of southern Iran
Herat lost to Afghanistan
Anti-Baha'i Riots in Isfahan, Yazd
Persian Revolution
Wars of Persia/Iran 1907-1979
1908-1909
1909
1911
1914-1918
1920
1920-1922
1921
1924
1932
1941-1946
1945
1946
1953
1963
1969-1970
1971
1973-1975
1979
Persian Civil War
Russian Occupation of Tabriz
War with Russia; Russian temporary occupation of Tehran
World War I; Russia supplied through Persia.
Soviet occupation of Gilan, establishmnt of Soviet Republic of Gilan
Separatist entities (Soviet Republic of Gilan 1921; Kurdistan, Azerbaijan, Khorasan) suppressed
Coup d'Etat
Arab rebellion in Khuzistan
Kurdish rebellion
During World War II Anglo-Soviet occupation
Revolt in Azerbaijan
Brief Kurdish secession
Coup d'Etat
Anti-Reform Riots
Clashes on Iraqi border
Iran occupied islands n Persian Gulf, claimed by UAE
Iran supported Sultan of Oman against Dhofar Rebels
Islamic Revolution
Wars of Iran since 1979
1980
1980-1988
1981-1982
1988
U.S. attempt to free U.S. embassy personnel held hostage in Tehran
First Gulf War, following Iraqi invasion
People's Mujahedeen terrorism against govt., countermeasures
Iranian passenger plane shot down over Persian Gulf by U.S. warship
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 5:16 PMThat's quite a long list of wars Iran has been involved in, but I do believe this thread is about which ones Iran *started* -
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Mon, November 20, 2006 - 5:20 PMThank you.
The key word was "started"
but the rest of the info was good.
I'm looking for wars Iran started first after 1600. -
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Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?
Tue, November 21, 2006 - 1:35 AMIran was called 'Persia' at that time?
I don't know much about the Crusades, such as who started them and why. The crusades were from before 1600 anyways.
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