Question: When has Iran started a war first?

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I'm here with some friends and we cannot remember ever if Iran has ever initiated a war first.


Anyone know the answer?


We already know they have not violated any nuclear treaties.


Thanks.
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  • Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?

    Mon, November 20, 2006 - 4:56 PM
    The Persian Wars, which began when the Persians conquered the Greek ethnic Lydians in 546 bce.
    • Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?

      Mon, November 20, 2006 - 4:59 PM
      If We were to say, in modern times, say since the early 1600's.
      • Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?

        Mon, November 20, 2006 - 5:21 PM
        Here is another long post. Actually the whole site is a good read. It seems pretty sympathetic but the modern history is accurate from what I know.
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        www.mage.com/TLbody.html

        Safavid Dynasty

        1501-1524 -- Shah Ismail I united all of Persia under Iranian leadership after some nine centuries of foreign or fragmented rule. Being a Shi'ite, he declared Shi'ism as the state religion and converted virtually all of Persia and some surrounding areas under his control from Sunnism to Shi'ism.Kerman Mosque Shi'ism became a medium for the Persians to differentiate themselves from the rest of the Islamic world, in particular from the Sunni Ottomans. To ensure its continuation as the state religion, the Safavid kings in general supported the Shi'ite clergy.

        1587-1629 -- The reign of Shah Abbas the Great marked the pinnacle of the Safavid dynasty. He developed a disciplined standing army and defeated the Ottomans. In 1598, he chose Isfahan as his capital. A strong supporter of the arts, especially architecture, he adorned Isfahan with some of the finest Islamic monuments in the world. He built a number of mosques, schools, bridges and a major bazaar. During his reign, Persian craftsmen and artists excelled in creating fine silks, cloths, porcelain, metalwork, calligraphy, miniatures and carpets.

        1501-1722 -- The two contemporary Islamic rivals of the Safavids, the Ottomans in Anatolia and the Mughals in India, relied on Persian artisans and poets for much of their arts and literature. Persian was the language of choice in both of their courts. This preference is evident from their poems and miniature paintings whose texts were almost exclusively written in Persian. Persian influence was especially prevalent in India, where it was also the cultural and administrative language; it remained so until the colonization of India by the British. The Taj Mahal's principle architect was a Persian named Ustad Isad and its architectural style was significantly influenced by Persian designs.

        1722 -- Mahmoud Khan, an Afghan chieftain and a vassal of the Safavids, attacked Persia and captured Isfahan with virtually no resistance, thus ending the Safavid dynasty.

        Mashad Mosque1729-1747 -- Nader Shah, an officer of the Safavids, was able to expel the Afghans and reunite the country. He was a brilliant military strategist, defeating the Ottomans, Russians, Indians and various local tribes. In his invasion of Mughal India, Nader Shah captured two of the world's greatest diamonds, the Sea of Light (now in Iran) & the Mountain of Light (now part of the British Crown Jewels). Nader Shah became increasingly paranoid and was assassinated by his own guardsmen. After his death, his great military machine collapsed.

        1747-1779 -- Karim Khan Zand gained control of central and southern parts of Iran. He was a compassionate ruler who refused to assume the title of Shah and referred to himself as the Representative of the People. He fought extensively with a rival tribe, the Qajars. After Karim Khan Zand's death in 1779, Aqa Mohammad Khan Qajar gradually vanquished the Zands and established the Qajar dynasty.

        Qajar Dynasty

        1795 -- Although the Qajars succeeded in reuniting the country, they were generally weak and corrupt rulers. The economic and military gap between Iran and the West widened considerably under their reign - especially in light of the Industrial Revolution that was taking place in the West. However, the Qajar period also enjoyed a high degree of artistic excellence, producing some of Iran's finest paintings, tileworks and architectural monuments.

        1813 & 1828 -- European imperialism resulted in English and Russian penetration in Iranian affairs. The Qajars lost the Caucasus (present day Georgia, Armenia and Azerbaijan) to the RussiansQajar in two separate treaties: the Gulistan in 1813 and the Turkmanchay in 1828. As a result of the 1828 treaty, the Qajars were forced to enact the "Capitulation" law, exempting all foreign citizens from Iranian jurisdiction. This law deeply
        humiliated the Iranian people.

        1851 minister of the Qajars.

        1851-1906 -- The Qajars lost central Asian provinces to the Russians and were forced to give up all claims on Afghanistan to the British. These two European powers dominated Iran's trade and manipulated its internal politics. The Qajars and influential members of their court were bribed to sell many valuable concessions to the British, such as the Tobacco Concession which triggered a massive popular uprising.

        1906 -- Discontent with Qajar corruption and mismanagement led to the Constitutional Revolution and the establishment of Iran's first parliament or Majles. The constitutional aspirations for a limited monarchy were never to be fully realized. Although Iran never became an actual colony of imperial powers, in 1907 it was divided into two spheres of influence. The north was controlled by Russia and the south and the east by Britain. By the end of WW I, Iran was plunged into a state of political, social and economic chaos.

        1921 -- Reza Khan, an officer in the army, staged a coup. Initially the minister of war and then the prime minister, in 1925 Reza Khan decided to become the Shah himself. Although Reza Khan's initial objective was to become the president of a republic, the clergy, fearing a diminished role in a republic, persuaded him to become the Shah.

        Pahlavi Dynasty

        1925-1941 -- Reza Shah Pahlavi's first priority was to strengthen the authority of the central government by creating a disciplined standing army and restraining the autonomy of the tribal chiefs. He embarked upon a series of modernizing and secular reforms, some of which were designed specifically to break the power of the clergy over Iran's educational and judicial systems. He provided public education, built Iran's first modern university, opened the schools to women and brought them into the work force. He initiated Iran's first industrialization program and dramatically improved Iran's infrastructure by building numerous roads, bridges, state-owned factories and Iran's first Transnational railway. In 1935, he officially requested all foreign governments to no longer refer to Iran as Persia, but as Iran. (The Iranian people themselves had always referred to their country as Iran.) Politically, however, Reza Shah forcibly abolished the wearing of the veil, took away the effective power of the Majles and did not permit any forms of free speech. With the outbreak of WW II, Reza Shah, wanting to remain neutral, refused to side with the Allies.

        1941 -- In need of the Trans-Iranian railway to supply the Soviets with wartime materials, the Allies invaded and occupied Iran for the duration of the war. Reza Shah was forced to abdicate in favor of his son Mohammad Reza Pahlavi and died in South Africa in exile in 1944.

        1946 -- Under American pressure, the Soviet Union was forced to pull out of Iran's northwestern province. It was the first and only time that Stalin gave back a WWII occupied territory.

        1951- 1953 -- Iran's Majles passed a law sponsored by the nationalistic (soon to be prime minister) Dr. Mossadeq to nationalize Iran's oil from British control. The British, enraged by the threat to their oil concessions, froze all of Iran's Sterling assets and took their case to the International Court of Justice. The Court ruled in Iran's favor. Undeterred, the British placed a total trade embargo on Iran and enforced it with their navy, leading to the collapse of Iran's economy. Citing the threat of a communist takeover, British Intelligence and the CIA sponsored a coup to topple Dr. Mossadeq's government. In the midst of the coup, the young Shah, having thought the plan had failed, left the country. Shortly thereafter, Dr. Mossadeq's government was overthrown and the Shah was put back in power.

        1962-1963 -- The Shah introduced his White Revolution. It consisted of major land reform, workers' rights and women's suffrage, among other initiatives. His reforms did not develop as planned due to poor execution. In a series of public speeches, Ayatollah Khomeini attacked these reforms. He was arrested and then exiled.

        1963-1973 -- Iran experienced rapid economic growth and prosperity coupled with a relatively stable political climate. Iran's infrastructure, public health and educational institutions were expanded. A number of highways, roads, bridges, railroad tracks, water and sewage projects, factories, schools, universities and hospitals were built. Iran's military strength grew and its international prestige was enhanced.

        Ayatollah Khomeini.1973-1979 -- The oil embargo quadrupled Iran's oil revenue to $20 billion a year. This new wealth accelerated the Shah's timetable to make Iran "catch up" with the West. The Shah's determination to modernize Iran virtually overnight and at any cost led to cultural shock, alienation of the masses, inflation, corruption, economic bottlenecks, massive urbanization, rising expectations and increasing authoritarianism in dealing with these social, economic and political problems. By the late 1970s, the Shah's opponents, of all political affiliations, united behind Ayatollah Khomeini. The Shah was overthrown in 1979 by the Islamic Revolution and died in Egypt a year later. After 2,500 years of monarchy, Iran's government was changed to a theocratic republic, The Islamic Republic of Iran.

        (This publication focuses on the history of Iran and does not address contemporary events.)
        Persian culture has survived foreign occupation, devastation and intolerance. A number of reasons account for its vitality, including its rich poetic tradition. By addressing the fears and desires of mankind, Persian poetry can touch the heart of all peoples regardless of their race, culture, religion, language or even era. Over seven centuries ago, Sa'di, one of Iran's greatest poets, wrote the following verses:

        "The children of Adam are limbs of each other
        Having been created of one essence.
        When the calamity of time afflicts one limb
        The other limbs cannot remain at rest.
        If thou hast no sympathy for the troubles of others
        Thou art unworthy to be called by the name of a man."

        Sa'di, poet of Persia
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          Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?

          Mon, November 20, 2006 - 9:06 PM
          According to Richard Clarke they were responsible for the Khobar Towers bombing, as well as terrorist attacks in South America and Berlin.

          I dunno if you'd call that starting a war, but it comes damn close.
          • Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?

            Mon, November 20, 2006 - 10:11 PM
            <<I dunno if you'd call that starting a war, but it comes damn close.>>

            Huh, good point.
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              Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?

              Tue, November 21, 2006 - 6:52 AM
              Clarke is an interesting guy. The book is a quick read, and what comes through is his belief that President Clinton and his staff did yeoman work on anti-terrorism. Much of the trouble they got into (WACO) was the result of Louis Freeh's antipathy for the Clinton White House.

              The other point that he makes is that Iran is, and has been, a very serious threat to this country. This is just one of the reasons I was so opposed to the war in Iraq.

              Oh yea - one last thing that's VERY curious - that there remains more than circumstantial evidence that al Qaida hay have played a role in the Oklahoma City bombing. Terry Nichols was in the same small Indonesian town at the same time as Ramzi Yousef, and he made several calls to this town after his girlfriend had relocated to the States. Clarke isn't saying that aQ is responsible - he calls it a conspiracy theory that cannot be dismissed.
  • Re: Question: When has Iran started a war first?

    Mon, November 20, 2006 - 5:11 PM
    Wars affecting Iran 945-1258

    934
    945
    979
    983 ff.
    990
    999
    1029
    1035
    1037
    1040
    1042
    1051
    1055
    1062
    1071
    1141
    1150
    1194
    1215
    1219-1223
    1237
    1242-1243
    1256-1258

    Buyid Conquest of Shiraz
    Buyid conquest of Baghdad; Buyid Dynasty ruled western Iran, Azerbaijan, Iraq
    Buyids took Mosul
    Buyid Dynasty Succession Struggles
    Uqaylid Arabs took Mosul from Buyids
    Ghaznavids took Khorasan from Samanids
    Rayy (near Tehran) fell to the Ghaznavids (previously Buyid)
    Seljuk Turks entered Khorasan
    Seljuk Turks took Nishapur
    Seljuk Turks defeated Ghaznavids in Battle of Dandanqan, annexed Khorasan
    Seljuk Turks conquered Rayy area from Ghaznavids
    Seljuk Turks conquered Isfahan area
    Seljuk Turks took Baghdad (hitherto Buyid)
    Seljuk Turks took Shiraz (hitherto Buyid)
    Seljujk victory over Byzantinians in Battle of Mantzikert
    Qara Qitai defeated Seljuks in Battle of Qatwan
    Ghurids destroyed Ghazna
    Seljuk Shah killed in battle against Khwarizm Shah
    Khwarizm Shah conquered Ghurid possessions in Afghanistan, eastern Iran
    First Mongol Raid of Iran
    Mongol conquest of Isfahan
    Mongol Raid of Anatolia: Seljuk Sultanate of Rum submitted
    Mongol Conquest of remainder of Iran, and of Iraq



    Wars affecting Persia / Iran 1258-1501

    1258-1335
    1260
    1281
    1282
    1284
    1291
    1295
    1295
    1299-1303
    1335
    1381
    1389
    1393
    1395
    1398
    1400-1402
    1406-1407
    1409
    1414
    1416
    1419
    1420-1434
    1447
    1449
    1458
    1460
    1467
    1469
    1473
    1501

    Wars with the Khanate of the Blue (Golden) Horde
    Battle of Ain Jalut; Mongol defeat at the hands of the Mamluks
    Mamluks repelled Ilkhanid Invasion (Battle of Homs)
    Succession Conflict in the Ilkhanate
    llkhan Teguder (a Muslim convert) toppled in a rebellion
    Anti-Semitic riots in Iraq, Iran
    Rebellion ousted Khan Gaykhatu
    Rebellion ousted Khan Baidu
    Mamluks repelled Ilkhanid invasion
    Succession struggles resulted in fragmentation of Ilkhanate
    Sarbardar State in Eastern Iran, centered on Sabzavar, conquered by Tamerlane
    Tamerlane raided the Khanate of the Golden Horde
    Tamerlane conquered fragments of Ilkhanate
    Tamerlane raided the Khanate of the Golden Horde
    Tamerlane raided Northern India, sacked Delhi
    Tamerlane's war on the Ottoman Empire
    Shah Rukh, from his base in Herat, took Mazandaran
    Shah Rukh took Samarkand
    Shah Rukh took Fars
    Shah Rukh took Kerman
    Qara Qoyunlu invaded Persia
    Shah Rukh fought three campaigns against Qara Qoyunlu; temporarily took Azerbaijan
    Shah Rukh died; his Empire disintegrated, son Ulugh Beg attempting to establish his rule
    Ulugh Beg executed after a rebellion
    Qara Qoyunlu temporarily occupied Timurid capital of Herat
    Safavid campaign against Armenia, Georgia terminated by Shirwan Shah who defeated Safavids
    Aq Qoyunlu conquered Qara Qoyunlu
    Timurids failed to take Azerbijan from Aq Qoyunlu
    Aq Qoyunlu defeated by Ottomans
    Safavid victory over Aq Qoyunlu



    Wars of Safavid Persia, 1501-1736

    1507
    1507-1508
    1507-1508
    1510
    1514
    1524-1537
    1526-1555
    1545
    1577-1590
    1587
    1591
    1598
    1602-1612
    1616-1618
    1622
    1622
    1623-1638
    1638
    1648
    1709
    1722
    1722-1724
    1722-1727
    1726-1736
    1730-1736

    Portuguese capture of Hormuz
    Uzbeks conquered Herat, Khorasan
    Safavids conquered Diyarbakir, Baghdad, Iraq
    Safavids conquered Herat, Khorasan from Uzbeks
    Safavid defeat at hands of Ottomans in Battle of Chaldiran; loss of territory in E. Anatolia
    Repulsion of 5 Uzbek invasions into Khorasan
    Ottoman-Persian War; Baghdad conquered by Ottomans in 1534, Basra in 1546
    Safavid conquest of Qandahar, from Mughal Empire
    Ottoman-Persian War; Ottoman conquest of Azerbaijan
    Rebels ousted Shah Muhammad Khudabanda, enthroned his son Abbas
    Qandahar lost to Mughal Empire
    Victory over Uzbeks; Herat regained
    Ottoman-Persian War, loss of Azerbaijan, Caucasus area to Persians
    Ottoman-Persian War
    Safavids took Hormuz from Portuguese
    Qandahar gained from Mughal Empire
    Ottoman-Persian War
    Qandahar lost to Mughal Empire
    Qandahar regained from Mughal Empire
    Qandahar lost to the Ghilzay Afghans
    Afghan conquest of Isfahan; Safavid Dynasty terminated
    Russian invasion
    Ottoman-Persian War; Ottoman occupation of Georgia, Azerbaijan, Shirvan
    Expulsion of the Afghans and reunification of Persia by Nadir Shah
    Ottoman-Persian War; Azerbaijan lost to Persia



    Wars of Zand, Afshar, Qajar Persia, 1736-1907

    1736-1744
    1738-1739
    1740
    1740es
    1743-1747
    1750es
    1756
    1766
    1776-1779
    1783
    1795
    1796
    1796-1798
    1797
    1804-1813
    1816
    1821-1822
    1826-1828
    1836-1838
    1856-1857
    1863
    1903
    1907-1911

    Persian Occupation of Oman
    Invasion of Afghanistan, Punjab, sack of Delhi
    Expedition against the Uzbeks
    Anti-Persian rebellions in Azerbaijan
    Ottoman-Persian War
    Wars between Azeri Khanates
    Bukhara seceded from Persian Empire
    Persian force conquered Fort Mosselstein on Kharg Island from the V.O.C.
    Ottoman-Persian War; temporary Persian occupation of Basra
    Persian invasion of Qatar
    Qajar army invaded Azerbaijan
    Russian Army invaded Azerbaijan; withdrew upon death of Catherine II.
    Qajars defeated, terminated Zand Dynasty in Iran, Afshar Dynasty in Khorasan
    Qajar army invaded Azerbaijan
    War with Russia
    Afghan-Persian War
    Ottoman-Persian War
    War with Russia
    War with Afghanistan
    Persian occupation of Herat, followed by a British invasion of southern Iran
    Herat lost to Afghanistan
    Anti-Baha'i Riots in Isfahan, Yazd
    Persian Revolution



    Wars of Persia/Iran 1907-1979

    1908-1909
    1909
    1911
    1914-1918
    1920
    1920-1922
    1921
    1924
    1932
    1941-1946
    1945
    1946
    1953
    1963
    1969-1970
    1971
    1973-1975
    1979

    Persian Civil War
    Russian Occupation of Tabriz
    War with Russia; Russian temporary occupation of Tehran
    World War I; Russia supplied through Persia.
    Soviet occupation of Gilan, establishmnt of Soviet Republic of Gilan
    Separatist entities (Soviet Republic of Gilan 1921; Kurdistan, Azerbaijan, Khorasan) suppressed
    Coup d'Etat
    Arab rebellion in Khuzistan
    Kurdish rebellion
    During World War II Anglo-Soviet occupation
    Revolt in Azerbaijan
    Brief Kurdish secession
    Coup d'Etat
    Anti-Reform Riots
    Clashes on Iraqi border
    Iran occupied islands n Persian Gulf, claimed by UAE
    Iran supported Sultan of Oman against Dhofar Rebels
    Islamic Revolution



    Wars of Iran since 1979

    1980
    1980-1988
    1981-1982
    1988

    U.S. attempt to free U.S. embassy personnel held hostage in Tehran
    First Gulf War, following Iraqi invasion
    People's Mujahedeen terrorism against govt., countermeasures
    Iranian passenger plane shot down over Persian Gulf by U.S. warship

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