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Elli Wohlgelernter Feb. 18, 2003
Seventy-one percent of Americans believe that the Palestinians should not be given a state, since they have not fulfilled President George W. Bush's conditions for creating a state, which he outlined in his speech of June 24.
These were the findings of a poll of 1,000 Americans conducted last week by John McLaughlin and Associates and sponsored by the Zionist Organization of America.
Bush's conditions include "fighting terrorism, stopping the promotion of hatred in its media, ending the encouragement of murder in its schools, becoming a democracy, and respecting human rights."
Approximately 13% believe the Palestinians have fulfilled these conditions and should be given a state.
The respondents were 36% Republicans, 37% Democrats, and 21% independents; 53% Protestants, 28% Catholics, and 2% Jews; 76% Caucasians, 11% African-Americans, and 10% Hispanics. The survey also found that:
By a margin of 77% to 12%, Americans say "the United States should stop giving the Palestinian Arabs $150 million" in aid each year. 61% believe "the goal of Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority is the eventual destruction of Israel," while 19% say the goal is "to have a small state living in peace alongside Israel." 51% say a Palestinian state will be a terrorist state, compared with 25% who believe it will be a civilized democracy.
73% want the US government to demand that the PA "turn over all Palestinian Arabs accused of killing or wounding American citizens," while 16% say the US should not make that demand.
64% believe world leaders should refuse to meet with Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, who claimed that the Nazis did not murder 6 million Jews, while 20% say world leaders should meet with him.
According to Steven M. Cohen, a sociology professor at the Hebrew University and a professional pollster, "Recent surveys show Americans moving toward 'a plague on both their houses.' They have become more disenchanted with both Arabs and Israelis, and this may be picking up on one half of that tendency."
Cohen said the survey didn't appear to also reflect American feelings toward anti-Israel positions, as it did with anti-Palestinian positions.
"To get a full picture of American public opinion, we need to measure responses to questions that are pro-Palestinian/anti-Palestinian, pro-Israel/anti-Israel, all at the same time," he said.
Mort Klein, national president of ZOA, said the questions weren't about Israel but about a Palestinian state.
"Here you have a question: 'Do you think the Palestinians fulfilled Bush's requirement?' It has nothing to do with Israel. So this question is as fair as you can get. It also sends a message to politicians like [Connecticut Senator] Joe Leiberman, who says in speech after speech that most Americans support a Palestinian state. This shows that most Americans are overwhelmingly against it."
Klein said the survey reflects a growing American awareness of the threat of Islamic terrorism. "They do not want to create yet another state that will be a mini-Iraq promoting hatred and murder," he said. "They understand that Islamic terrorism threatens not only Israel, but also America and the world."
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Elli Wohlgelernter Feb. 18, 2003
Seventy-one percent of Americans believe that the Palestinians should not be given a state, since they have not fulfilled President George W. Bush's conditions for creating a state, which he outlined in his speech of June 24.
These were the findings of a poll of 1,000 Americans conducted last week by John McLaughlin and Associates and sponsored by the Zionist Organization of America.
Bush's conditions include "fighting terrorism, stopping the promotion of hatred in its media, ending the encouragement of murder in its schools, becoming a democracy, and respecting human rights."
Approximately 13% believe the Palestinians have fulfilled these conditions and should be given a state.
The respondents were 36% Republicans, 37% Democrats, and 21% independents; 53% Protestants, 28% Catholics, and 2% Jews; 76% Caucasians, 11% African-Americans, and 10% Hispanics. The survey also found that:
By a margin of 77% to 12%, Americans say "the United States should stop giving the Palestinian Arabs $150 million" in aid each year. 61% believe "the goal of Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority is the eventual destruction of Israel," while 19% say the goal is "to have a small state living in peace alongside Israel." 51% say a Palestinian state will be a terrorist state, compared with 25% who believe it will be a civilized democracy.
73% want the US government to demand that the PA "turn over all Palestinian Arabs accused of killing or wounding American citizens," while 16% say the US should not make that demand.
64% believe world leaders should refuse to meet with Mahmoud Abbas, also known as Abu Mazen, who claimed that the Nazis did not murder 6 million Jews, while 20% say world leaders should meet with him.
According to Steven M. Cohen, a sociology professor at the Hebrew University and a professional pollster, "Recent surveys show Americans moving toward 'a plague on both their houses.' They have become more disenchanted with both Arabs and Israelis, and this may be picking up on one half of that tendency."
Cohen said the survey didn't appear to also reflect American feelings toward anti-Israel positions, as it did with anti-Palestinian positions.
"To get a full picture of American public opinion, we need to measure responses to questions that are pro-Palestinian/anti-Palestinian, pro-Israel/anti-Israel, all at the same time," he said.
Mort Klein, national president of ZOA, said the questions weren't about Israel but about a Palestinian state.
"Here you have a question: 'Do you think the Palestinians fulfilled Bush's requirement?' It has nothing to do with Israel. So this question is as fair as you can get. It also sends a message to politicians like [Connecticut Senator] Joe Leiberman, who says in speech after speech that most Americans support a Palestinian state. This shows that most Americans are overwhelmingly against it."
Klein said the survey reflects a growing American awareness of the threat of Islamic terrorism. "They do not want to create yet another state that will be a mini-Iraq promoting hatred and murder," he said. "They understand that Islamic terrorism threatens not only Israel, but also America and the world."
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Re: 71% in US oppose Palestinian state - poll
Sat, August 18, 2007 - 8:28 AMmost people in the states aren't terribly informed on middle east issues.
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the Ps should most definitely NOT EVER be given their own state. they should form it and declare it themselves. They don't need any one giving them anything. All they gotta do is stand up on and declare. -
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Sun, August 19, 2007 - 11:40 PM<They don't need any one giving them anything. All they gotta do is stand up on and declare.>
Yep.
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Re: 71% in US oppose Palestinian state - poll
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 6:55 AM>> Cliff: the Ps should most definitely NOT EVER be given their own state. they should form it and declare it themselves. They don't need any one giving them anything. All they gotta do is stand up on and declare. <<
This is almost right. But as you well know, Cliff, a soveriegn nation needs the ability to defend itself. So, in addition to standing up and declaring, the Palestinians will also need an army, a navy and and an air force. -
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Re: 71% in US oppose Palestinian state - poll
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 10:49 AMAlso, it would help if Israel weren't constantly attacking the Palestinians with tanks and gunships. Just a thought. -
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Re: 71% in US oppose Palestinian state - poll
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 11:20 AMagree with cliff and andrew. we're helping build a fatah military right now.
>>By a margin of 77% to 12%, Americans say "the United States should stop giving the Palestinian Arabs $150 million" in aid each year. 61% believe "the goal of Yasser Arafat's Palestinian Authority is the eventual destruction of Israel," while 19% say the goal is "to have a small state living in peace alongside Israel." 51% say a Palestinian state will be a terrorist state, compared with 25% who believe it will be a civilized democracy.
the arafat thing makes me wonder if this survey is outdated. but the point is, the politics tribe is not representative of the u.s., which is overwhelmingly more pro-israel than pro-palestinian...*and* as you can see, the israelis are willing to let them have their state anyway. the u.s. may not demand it, but we believe they should have it, we wish them well and we'll have a big wall between us until their international relations with us are civilized. we don't need force or violence to motivate us, and we don't need threats of aid cuts. we will do it on our own for our own reasons!
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Re: 71% in US oppose Palestinian state - poll
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 6:42 PM<Also, it would help if Israel weren't constantly attacking the Palestinians with tanks and gunships. Just a thought.>
Also, it would help if the P's weren't constantly attacking Israel with missiles, mortars and suicide bombs.
The irony is lost on you, isn't it?
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Re: 71% in US oppose Palestinian state - poll
Mon, August 20, 2007 - 2:29 AM