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I have to say....now this really surprised ME!
www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/
get your chance to vote..on the world stage~
www.whowouldtheworldelect.com/
get your chance to vote..on the world stage~
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 8:36 AMIf Ron Paul wins the first thing I'm going to do is beg Sean to change his avatar, it's too distracting when I'm trying to engage in SERIOUS political discussion.!!!!
The main problem is that even though Ron Paul wins by a landslide on the world forum, we're talking about an America that's grown over the years on a export diet of bombs and violence. The threat of Ron Paul bringing all our troops home and leaving the rest of the world alone is too horrible to contemplate.
We would be left with no choice but to eat our own.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 8:52 AMThere, Robin.
Happy now? :p -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:16 AMWelllllllll, yes and no.
I see that she's not a real Pauli girl, and that allows me to not be thinking about hotties and Ron Paul's political policies, they're now inextricably linked just like those Budweiser ads in our local watering hole, but I'm not sure this new venue is a Really Big Help.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:08 AMFuck Ron Paul. I'm so bloody sick of that "He would really change things, he's the savior, he's a libertarian" asskissing from Paulbots on the internet who are apparently fine with a lying/racist/incompetent asshole. -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:10 AMOhh, FSM is back at his usual lying. Think I need to change my avatar back just to annoy him some more. -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:14 AM<<Ohh, FSM is back at his usual lying.>>
Straight for the mindless ad-hom. Very typical of you diehard Paulbots who seem bothered by reality.
<<Think I need to change my avatar back just to annoy him some more.>>
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:17 AMDoubt it FSM.
Paul has seriously hit a sore spot with you. If exposure to him didnt annoy the hell out of you, you'd just ignore it like the vast majority of folks.
You cling to this lie that he is some sort of racist which exposes a definate agenda on your part.
I'm intensely curious as to why your threat-level is so damned high.... -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:23 AM<<Paul has seriously hit a sore spot with you.>>
More like his supporters, really. Faux-libertarians on the internet. A handful of other blissfully ignorant. But really loud and silly.
<<If exposure to him didnt annoy the hell out of you, you'd just ignore it like the vast majority of folks.>>
Yeah, yall annoy me.
<<You cling to this lie that he is some sort of racist which exposes a definate agenda on your part.>>
There's no racist. There are ten years of publications in the Ron Paul Newsletter. Your "oh but it was ghost written and Ronnie didn't knoooooow!" defense is pure BS and, if true, it would only show that Ron Paul is incompetent.
Incompetence is not better than racism. A guy who doesn't know who he hires, or what they are doing in his name, and who apparently lacks the means to even find out (until it becomes politically scandalous and damage control becomes needed) for president? We already have someone like that.
<<I'm intensely curious as to why your threat-level is so damned high....>>
Racists and their apologists piss me off. You can quit with the tiresome Ron Paul martyr story about how I just am opposed to what Ron Paul claims to stand for and how that's my real agenda because I'm really working for the Mossad or whatever. -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:29 AMTheres 4 newsletters that were not written by him
"Decades of newsletters" is a lie...so why do you cling to it?
Its not the Israel issue that has you up in arms..
Its not likely the anti-war or non-interventionism stance either...
Your total inability to see any positive in this movement and your recent tirade over "sound money" makes me suspicious that your motivations may be economic.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:35 AM<<"Decades of newsletters" is a lie...so why do you cling to it?>>
I didn't say "decades," I said "ten years."
That was the amount of time during which your boy Ronnie apparently wasn't reading his own newsletter. No one on his staff was apparently reading it either. Yeah, no one knew.... intelligence was misleading... blah blah, same old political disavowal tactic.
<<Its not the Israel issue that has you up in arms..
Its not likely the anti-war or non-interventionism stance either...>>
Nope. Of course, for that stance I'd go with Gravel. Not only is he not a racist/incompetent, I know he means what he says. That's more than I can say for Ron "Ghost Writer" Paul.
<<Your total inability to see any positive in this movement and your recent tirade over "sound money" makes me suspicious that your motivations may be economic.>>
What tirade over "sound money?" Do you have me confused with someone else?
<<So, FSM, what is it you stand to lose?>>
My patience, in dealing with Paulbots. -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:40 AMOne of the few issues you really delved into was one on sound money or the gold standard.
No, I dont have you confused with somebody else. You were absolutely certain it could not work, but you were woefully unarmed with any sort of factual information or even a basic conceptual understanding of monetary systems past or present. Your passion on the subject despite the ignorance you demonstrated would suggest to me that is the source of your fear, and would explain everything you've said/done since re: Paul.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:36 AMAnd, fwiw, I doubt you would cop to "annoyance" as a motivation for anything unless it was an act of misdirection on your part.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:55 AM<<And, fwiw, I doubt you would cop to "annoyance" as a motivation for anything unless it was an act of misdirection on your part. >>
Why? You don't know me, or you would know that I do a lot of things in order to reduce annoyance, because lots of things annoy me. This subject isn't particularly special in that regard.
<<One of the few issues you really delved into was one on sound money or the gold standard.>>
Oh, that. Yeah, I think the gold standard is quite overrated. That's an unrelated subject however.
<<You were absolutely certain it could not work>>
I never once claimed that a gold standard "could not work," ever.
<<but you were woefully unarmed with any sort of factual information or even a basic conceptual understanding of monetary systems>>
At least I read what I was responding to, which seems more than one can say of you. Maybe in your mind you came across as informed and intelligent though, I dunno, you obviously get something out of these silly ad homs.
<<Your passion on the subject despite the ignorance you demonstrated would suggest to me that is the source of your fear, and would explain everything you've said/done since re: Paul.>>
Yes yes, I'm a neocon capitalist shill. How'd you guess? damn, you're like an investigative journalist, always getting to the heart of every issue. This couldn't possibly be about racism! That's just what THEY want you to believe! -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 6:03 PM<<This couldn't possibly be about racism! That's just what THEY want you to believe!>>
That's right, it cant be about racism. You're not dumb enough to hinge your entire opinion and subsequent analysis on some sand castle in the sky. The racism argument fails miserably-- I assume the reason you cling to it has more to do with antagonism rather than merit. -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Mon, February 4, 2008 - 8:18 AM<<That's right, it cant be about racism.>>
Then it seems there is a problem in communication, since I'm clearly enough complaining about one thing and you're insisting that I'm not.
<<You're not dumb enough to hinge your entire opinion and subsequent analysis on some sand castle in the sky.>>
Oh? Funny, you've already concluded (entirely without cause, but no matter) that I'm dumb on economics.
<<The racism argument fails miserably>>
Ignoring an argument and countering it with stupid ad hominems does not constitute the failure of that argument.
<<-- I assume the reason you cling to it has more to do with antagonism rather than merit.>>
Your mistake for assuming that I assume the argument "fails" just because you do.
<<Theres the claws. Now lets see some teeth.>>
Why, so you can play the denial and disavowal game for your beloved bigoted piece of shit some more? I'm tired of repeating myself and having people like you or seth or cliff play stupid as your only defense and only means of getting attention.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 6:12 PM<<damn, you're like an investigative journalist, always getting to the heart of every issue.>>
Theres the claws. Now lets see some teeth.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:10 AMPaul has long ago reached the pinnacle of his political career. He's going no further.
President is out of his reach. The best he could ever have hoped for was to use the presidential campaign as a stump from which top advertise his positions.
I sort of wonder if that wasn't his goal all along. He never really seemed to be trying to be president so much as to broadcast his somewhat odd message. Return to gold, become isolationist, hardcore social Darwinism: yadda yadda. Paul's agenda may be highly nationalist and contain many really true blue conservative components he has always been and remains too far on the fringe to be a serious contender. And I don't think he is so personally stupid to be unaware of that fact.
That leaves only one reason for all the effort and cost: He has an agenda he feels is underrepresented and wants to source confederates to his ideas.
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:15 AMWhat ignoramus still calls RP an "isolationist" ?
Isolationists dont trade.
But 98% of the countries on this planet are "Non-Interventionist", ie they trade with other nations but do not interfere in their affairs.
RP is a Non-interventionist. Give up your bloodlust and irrational fear, and this will seem like a much less radical ideal. -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:17 AMI can't wait to see what the rippies do after the dust settles!
will they dry up and blow away, or just light up and get puffed up again?? -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 9:19 AMIf it makes more people aware of the potential power of a vote, then it cant be a bad thing
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 10:21 AMlook like, the world, hate America so much !
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 12:07 PMbut ..with all this rhetoric..
I fail so see..why in the foreign lands..he has such appeal
of course they do not know..of his conservative.. past
nor do I think they realize..what a libertarian..stands for..either!
no one..that I speak too in europe and abroad..even mentions his name..most I know are for Obama..
that is why this poll..surprised the hell out of me ..so -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 12:08 PMwith all that said and done
I wouldn't be so against..our dollar being worth ..a dollar~
and not a bunch of paper..floating around
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 12:09 PMoh another meaningless internet "poll"
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 2:29 PMWow. What a great site. I said I lived in Sri Lanka, Uganda and Afganistan and voted for Ron Paul three times! This is great AND scientific AND accurate! -
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Sun, February 3, 2008 - 2:39 PMScience, it works bitches
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Re: the WORLD..vote Ron Paul
Mon, February 4, 2008 - 11:16 AMLMAO!
I voted for RP in the Islamic Republic of Iran!
Go Great Satan!!
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