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I dont know if he has been discussed here but I gotta say, I love the guy.
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Re: Ward Churchill
Tue, May 16, 2006 - 3:16 PMBy CHASE SQUIRES
The Associated Press
Tuesday, May 16, 2006; 3:14 PM
BOULDER, Colo. -- An investigation of a professor who likened some of the Sept. 11 victims to a Nazi found serious cases of misconduct in his academic research, including plagiarism and fabrications, a University of Colorado spokesman said Tuesday.
One member of the five-person investigative committee recommended that ethnic studies professor Ward Churchill be fired, and four recommended he be suspended, university spokesman Barrie Hartman said.
Churchill, who has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing, declined immediate comment Tuesday.
The professor touched off a firestorm with an essay relating the 2001 terrorist attacks to U.S. abuses abroad. The essay referred to some World Trade Center victims as "little Eichmanns," a reference to Adolf Eichmann, who carried out Adolf Hitler's plan to exterminate European Jews during World War II.
University officials had earlier determined Churchill could not be fired for his comments about the terrorist attacks, but they launched an inquiry into allegations about his research.
The committee's 125-page report said Churchill falsified, fabricated and plagiarized some of his research, did not always comply with standards for listing other authors' names and failed to follow accepted practice for reporting results.
The decision on his future at the university will be made by school officials later this year. Churchill has said if he is fired, he will sue.
Churchill's wife, Natsu Saito, who also teaches in the ethnic studies department, said Tuesday she had resigned her tenured teaching position at the school but said she and Churchill have no plans to leave Boulder.
In her resignation letter, Saito accused the university of reneging on promises to her and the department, ignoring racial harassment of the department and individuals, and treating Churchill unfairly. She said her decision to resign was not prompted by the pending report.
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 2:53 PMI believe he was subsequently suspended, right?
I read a good part of the investigative report. Basically Churchill researched like a political activist, misrepresenting data to bolster his political positions, manufacturing facts to suppose his claims, engaging in systematically sloppy citations in order to prevent people from checking on his sources, etc. -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 3:54 PMMr. Churchill is my hero, a brave and bold investigator and commentator, a brilliant and unflinching activist, a man of intellect and integrity like Ron will never know. Slam him if you want Ron, but it just makes you look foolish, er more foolish.
Check out 'Pacifism as Pathology' if you can find it, a short but hyper profound book. -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 4:01 PMFrom another news source, slightly less biased:
www.coloradodaily.com/article...ews1.txt
"Churchill has found vocal critics from other scholars, politicians and bloggers across the globe, and on Tuesday they came out in force against the professor.
“Churchill should resign,” Gov. Bill Owens wrote in a press release issued Tuesday.
Many felt that it was Churchill's views on 9/11 and other U.S. government policies that started the investigation, not his scholarly work per se.
“I feel this whole investigation is politically inspired,” said CU sociology Professor Tom Mayer. “I feel it is a warning towards anyone who takes positions that are unpopular.”
The committee determined that Churchill's errors were “deliberate and not a matter of an occasional, careless error.”
However, the committee could not agree on an appropriate punishment for Churchill. Four committee members said Churchill should be suspended without pay for two to five years, while one committee member said he should be fired outright.
Churchill's future will not be decided by the committee.
“The final decision is going to be made by the provost and the dean of the college of arts and sciences,” said CU spokesman Barrie Hartman."
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 4:43 PMTo me he’s just another professional whiner…
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 6:46 PM"a man of intellect and integrity like Ron will never know"
A man who apparently engages in academic fraud, according to his own university. Great "integrity" there.
And I'm sure I've knmown a lot smarter, given his idiotic comments
"Slam him if you want Ron"
It was his own university that slammed him after investigating his dishonest research. Bury your head in the sand if you prefer -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 7:00 PMa professor that was completely unqualified for his position...
www.frontpagemag.com/Article...icle.asp
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 4:28 PM>I read a good part of the investigative report. Basically Churchill researched like a political activist, misrepresenting data to >bolster his political positions, manufacturing facts to suppose his claims, engaging in systematically sloppy citations in order to >prevent people from checking on his sources, etc.
Ron, this sounds like a perfect description of any day at the NY Times, only worse their encouraged by vested interests to do it...
if any of this even turns out to be true...
there would no doubt be multitudes of professional journalists who would say ( though not publicly of course )that it's about time an american indian used the tricks of the trade to speak out against genocidal tendencies/realities of national powers and/or transnational corporations...
crimes that definitely cannot be laid against churchill, but certainly would make an interesting case against
the assistance given by corporate media for varying atrocities over numerous decades...
or shall we say... ever since the printing press.
funny i wonder why we haven't seen any attempts to crucify judith miller on bill o'reilly yet.
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 7:00 PMSo academic fraud is OK if in pursuit of politically correct ends? -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 8:04 PMDude yur so off topic , and probably out of yur league...
but for fun...
i'll throw this one at ya:
quoted from
frontpage(? ) article mentioned above:
"The committee also found that Churchill “was disrespectful of Indian oral traditions” in his writings about an 1837 smallpox epidemic."
This is so f*cking hilarious!
if you can name anyone in the history of academics or the judicial system for that matter who was found
"disprespectful of indian oral tradiions"...i will then point you to a mike davis book that describes the bounty posters for squaw fetuses... and then we can discuss some more...
and was anyone ever tried for disrespect to pregnant indian women butchered for a bounty...
get a clue.!!
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 8:33 PM"Dude yur so off topic , and probably out of yur league... "
"Dude", get over yourself. You're not as impressive as you think you are.
So you pick one thing out of that report and don't bother with context, meanwhile ignoring the conclusions that he misrepresented, manufactured evidence to support his theories, and systematically attempted to prevent other researchers from checking on his research so they wouldn't discover that he was making up claims. -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 9:36 PMok i'll calm down for a moment...
you want me to explore the context of an academic institution going after a native american writer
who's VERY outspoken about the atrocities done against (his) indigenous people... and who has recently
whacked the neo-con beehive in regards to Language used to Describe corporate executives
( for whom even the orwellian odes would not likely find poetic meter) in the world trade center....
fair enough... it IS a fascinating topic!
one i'm glad the controversy has caused many to explore further.
but honestly, given the fact that academic institutions continue to omit the concepts of genocide and holocaust from the history books in regards to native americans, i hardly find their trials of such activist authors very illuminating... much less trustworthy.
now , do i think churchill has made errors in his rants and research?
could be.
i think he's produced some 20 books !!
do i think he should be fired from his university?
only if every scholar of american history
in denial went down with him.
btw , shouldn't there be a few other
academics' trials coming up soon.
don't hold yur breath.
respects,
p.
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 9:42 PM<Ron, this sounds like a perfect description of any day at the NY Times, only worse their encouraged by vested interests to do it...>
Sorry but reporters at NY Times or any other newspaper aren't researchers. They make use of research and depend on it's objectivity. Even the most bias paper would rather do their own skewing of the truth. a University researcher is held to higher standard, one that Ward Churchill failed at miserably. His wife probably quit to avoid an investigation into her own misdoings.
<it's about time an american indian used the tricks of the trade to speak out against genocidal tendencies/realities of national powers and/or transnational corporations>
"tricks of trade" are still corrupt no matter who does them. Personally I would rather hear that every Native American died in a valiant and noble attempt to defend their land, then to hear about even one that won over the white man by adopting his "tricks of trade", but I guess that's how we differ.
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 10:12 PMthis is gonna get far more complex than i care to spend time on,
but before i go i'll let a far better writer sum it up:
www.counterpunch.org/cockbur...005.html
If anyone cares to take the time to find EXACTLY what the university committee ACTUALLY FOUND which has already succeeded in giving many the impression that Churchill "fails miserably" to meet academic standards, i would be interested to know more.
in the meantime, given the bigger picture of history, i am inclined to suspect he got the hung jury...
prodded by powers beyond the university itself...
here's what churchill himself writes about the investigation:
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 10:35 PM...hanging jury, that is.
or however that legalspeak goes.
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 8:32 PMYou *love* this guy?!?!?
OMG. You perhaps like being a victim. Or at least like to blame others for your problems. Or maybe you want NO responsibility for your actions.
Any way you slice it, if you live in the USA, Then You Gotta Deal with IT !!
Goddamn apologists. ITs disgusting.
Are you ashamed of your country?!?!? Too F*king Bad, A*Hole!!!
Go move to Peru. I hear the weather's great.
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Re: Ward Churchill
Wed, May 17, 2006 - 8:33 PMIts vindicating to see this LOSER crucified over his lack of professional qualifications.
The guy is a PHONY.
And some people *love* him!!!! The jokes' on you losers!!!! -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 3:10 PMWhat a classy group here LOL
"If you speak the truth you had better ride a fast horse" to get away from folks like you Jonny.
Have you actually read any of his works or are you just rehashing the article and forming your opinions? Ward did work with the American Indian Movement that is historic and foundational for human rights, what have you done Jonny of the foul mouth?
Who's the real LOSER?
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 9:48 PM<If you speak the truth you had better ride a fast horse">
Exactly, I think your missing the point here VR, if they had anything valid to say against this essay they would have. Instead they rifle through his old work looking for a reason to persecute him. -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 9:53 PM<Exactly, I think your missing the point here VR, if they had anything valid to say against this essay they would have. Instead they rifle through his old work looking for a reason to persecute him. >
Well, I feel confident in saying that it is a fact that if your going to make wild claims against the establishment that you had better have your house in order first, This has always been true and probably always will be, I doubt that anyone of us will ever live in a society in which ones personal integrity or competency is not called into question when making a claim. As the old saying goes, "those that live in glass house shouldn't through stones..."---------------->Vicarious Ron -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Mon, May 29, 2006 - 11:33 PMI was reading Ward Churchill when a lot of you were still passing notes in junior high. Ward is a master at giving people a look at his-story thru a different lense. If that picture doesn't mesh with your indoctrination at high school you might take this occassion to recalibrate your brainwashing er indoctrination er history lessons.
Yeah, it'd be wunnerful to believe in noble men, guided by god, wrestling with their conciences over the profound deeds of empire building and and genocide for the common good. heh heh
I've got ward churchill and howard zinn to blame for a much more balanced and far less jingoistic view of this world's historical behavior. -
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Re: Ward Churchill
Tue, May 30, 2006 - 9:09 AM"I was reading Ward Churchill when a lot of you were still passing notes in junior high."
Being older doesn't necessarily make one wiser on any particular issue.
"Ward is a master at giving people a look at his-story thru a different lense. "
Apparently a lense rigged with lies and academic fraud
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Re: Ward Churchill a fool's fool.
Tue, May 30, 2006 - 7:34 AMAt best he is willfully ignorant.
