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#1 he's a career politician
#2 he has absolutely no business experience
i thought both were antithetical to what republicans believe good governance requires.
#2 he has absolutely no business experience
i thought both were antithetical to what republicans believe good governance requires.
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Wed, August 15, 2012 - 3:08 PM"i thought both were antithetical to what republicans believe good governance requires."
Says who? Before Romney, when was the last Republican nominee for president who was a successful businessman? -
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Thu, August 16, 2012 - 11:10 AMhis whole primary run was based upon the fact that he was the strongest candidate because of his business acumen. -
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Thu, August 16, 2012 - 10:42 PMHe argued that it made him a better candidate or gave him an edge. But when did he or any Republican argue that it was what good governance "requires." Sounds like you're attacking a straw man. -
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Fri, August 17, 2012 - 7:10 AMyou are nitpicking, ron.
if business acumen is a necessity for a good representative, senator, governor, president, etc, then what else could they possibly be arguing?
they have constantly criticized obama for his lack of private sphere experience. the tea party, especially, has attacked candidates on both sides of the aisle for being entrenched in washington, desiring an "outsider". how much less outside can you get than a vp candidate who has spent since 1998 being part of the problem? -
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Tue, August 21, 2012 - 12:29 PM"you are nitpicking, ron."
No, you are making a logical leap. You are going from "This element of my resume makes me a good candidate for president" (paraphrase) to "Every candidate for president MUST have that element in their resume." So when Bill Clinton touted his experience as governor, he was implicitly declaring that Al Gore lacked the necessities of good governance because he was never a governor. Or that when Barack Obama declared that his work as a community organizer gave him good experience to lead, then he was implicitly declaring that good governance requires having been a community organize, and hence Joseph Biden lacks the necessities of good governance because he never was a community organizer.
You're reaching to find something to criticize.
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Fri, August 17, 2012 - 7:13 AMi mean, really... you are saying he argued it made him a better candidate. by virtue of that alone, it would imply that he would better govern because he has more business acumen. -
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Tue, August 21, 2012 - 12:32 PM"i mean, really... you are saying he argued it made him a better candidate. by virtue of that alone, it would imply that he would better govern because he has more business acumen."
Again, by your reasoning, every presidential candidate who touts a particular element of his resume is implying that that element is a necessity for good governance, and that if his running mate lacked that element, then he or she is not qualified to run for office. That's an absurd leap. -
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Tue, August 21, 2012 - 12:58 PMno, i'm just talking about ones who make it the centerpiece of their campaign and who even suggest a constitutional amendment mandating it.
either way, conservatives and republicans pounded obama in the 2008 election for being untested in an executive position and lacking experience in business.
plus, conservatives and republicans, for years, have argued that the problem with washington is that representatives have lost touch with their constituents because they've become too entrenched. how is having a vice presidential candidate who has been in washington since 1998 going to solve that problem? (see: richard lugar, orrin hatch, and every other moderate republican who has been primaried out of office) -
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Tue, August 21, 2012 - 1:04 PManother thing:
please point me to ryan's votes before being a deficit hawk was hip. i'm guessing he was george w bush's lap monkey and rarely, if ever, voted out of lock step with him. (the point not being that voting with your party is wrong, but if you are going to vote with your party, then claim to be some sort of savior with a ridiculous budget...you probably shouldn't have been a major part of the problem you claim is facing the country)
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Mon, August 20, 2012 - 1:23 PM<But when did he or any Republican argue that it was what good governance "requires.">
Romney Pitches Three Year Business Requirement To Qualify For The Presidency
"Speaking at a campaign rally in Las Vegas on Tuesday, Governor Mitt Romney decided to share an idea with his audience - an idea calling for a constitutional amendment requiring that a three year business background be required as a prerequisite for becoming President of the United States."
www.forbes.com/sites/rick...honest-abe/
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Fri, August 31, 2012 - 11:23 AMfrom Willard's speech:
The president has not disappointed you because he wanted
to. The president has disappointed America because he hasn't
lead America in the right direction. He took office without the
basic qualification that most Americans have, and one that was
essential to the task at hand. He had almost no experience
working in a business. Jobs to him are about government.
Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/2...zz259KRBMsJ
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Re: two things about paul ryan
Thu, September 6, 2012 - 10:51 AMRyan is hot.
The GOP has never articulated a Business only qualification bar
A career in politics isn't a bad thing so long as you don't lose your soul.
Neither is a career in the military so long as you don't lose your soul.
