Sex tourism in full boom
Jeff Heinrich, Ottawa Citizen
Published: Monday, January 08, 2007
MONTREAL -- In winter, a tourist woman's fancy lustily turns to thoughts of sex.
By the thousands they descend on the Caribbean every year, women driven by one urge: to spend a week or two sleeping with local "beach boys" and paying them back in drinks, meals, gifts, and cash.
And it is Quebec women - with reputations as financially generous and uninhibited - who are among the best established in the island flesh trade.
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Sex tourists, they're called. Or as some prefer it, "romance travellers" looking for "love" and a little tenderness in the tropics.
This is the season - building to a travel peak in February and March - when business in Jamaica, Barbados and the Dominican Republic heats up.
Unlike most years, though, this winter's parade comes with a heap of advance media publicity. In 2006, there was lots:
On the screen and DVD, two movies dealt with the subject: Vers le sud, a French film based on stories by Quebec author Dany Laferriere, starring Charlotte Rampling as a British sex-seeker in late-1970s Haiti; and Rent-a-Rasta, a 45-minute U.S. documentary about women who flock to Jamaica in search of the "big bamboo" and the young Rastafarians who cater to them.
On the stage, there was Sugar Mummies, a much-reviewed play in London's Royal Court Theatre last August that starred Montreal-born Lynda Bellingham as a mid-life hedonist in Negril, the Jamaican sun resort.
On radio in December, female sex tourism was the topic of a long segment on the national CBC morning show, The Current.
And in print, there's a provocative new autobiographical book called Romance on the Road, by Jeannette Belliveau, a Baltimore travel writer of Acadian origin who was a sex tourist herself.
All the coverage begged an essential question: Is sex tourism by women any better or worse than sex tourism by men?
Does it just represent a new twist on exploitation of the Third World poor - in other words, prostitution with the roles reversed, the woman paying the man? Or is it simply a case of women exercising their right to choose what to do with their bodies?
There is no single correct answer, just points of view coloured by politics and morality. Scholars agree on one thing, though: female sex tourism is common enough and big enough to merit serious academic attention.
By some estimates, 600,000 Western women have engaged in travel sex sometime over the last 25 years - many of them as repeat customers, returning to the tropics every winter for some sun and some action.
"Seeing it in operation, it's quite a phenomenon - there's a whole system," said Kamala Kempadoo, a global sex-trade expert who teaches at York University in Toronto. Of Guyanese descent, she did field work on female sex tourism in Negril in 2000 and 2001.
"It's not just women on the beach, it's the nightlife. You go to a party and see couple after couple of older, quite substantial - I mean overweight - white women with very young, very lithe black men," Kempadoo said.
"It's quite a curious thing."
The root of it isn't just carnal. The women want a companion, too, someone to show them around, romance them, make them feel special and needed - something they don't feel at home.
But the names the men and women are known by colloquially belie the true nature of the transaction, some research suggests: It's sex for hire, where black men's flesh is tied - at least temporarily - to white women's pursestrings.
The men go by many monikers. In Jamaica and other former British colonies, they're called rent-a-gents, rent-a-Rastas, rent-a-tutes, the Foreign Service. In the Dominican Republic, they're sanky pankys (a play on 'hanky panky').
The tourist women get nicknames, too. British ones go by "Shirley Valentine" (from the 1989 hit movie of the same name, about a Liverpool housewife finding liberation in Greece). In Bermuda, they're "longtails" or "yellowtails."
In Jamaica, the name depends on the woman's colour: "Milk bottles" if they're white, newly arrived and, to put it crudely, "in need of filling" (as one Negril man put it to British writer Julie Bindel in 2003).
If they're black, the women are called Stellas (from the popular 1998 film How Stella Got Her Groove Back, about a black San Francisco stock broker on holiday in Jamaica).
Canadians have made it into the slang lexicon, too. In Barbados, female sex tourism has been dubbed "Canadian secretary syndrome."
In Martinique, locals refer to incoming flights of Air Canada as "Air Coucoune" - French for "Air Pussy."
Little wonder. Canadian women in search of sex have been coming to the Caribbean for years.
"You guys were the pioneers," said Belliveau, who sells her 410-page book through her publishing website.
"Pretty much the first group (of female sex tourists) in the Caribbean after the takeoff of jet travel (in the 60s) was French-Quebecois women in Barbados," Belliveau said. "They had a tremendously high reputation among the local beach boys. They were fun loving and generous and a real great time."
It's still true, added Belliveau, 52, an ex-journalist and divorcee who spent much of her 20s and 30s travelling the world and - as she freely admits - having sex wherever she went. (She's now remarried - to an African-American man.)
"Canadian women are mostly in Barbados now, which is somewhat upmarket; Jamaica is poorer," Belliveau said. "And the Dominican is slowly getting the reputation of having men that are very eager to be the world's best lovers. In the French islands, the men are more suave and gallant and won't accept payment."
But sex with the locals isn't without drawbacks or controversy.
The most obvious is money: according to a couple of studies in Jamaica, it can cost $20 to $30 for an hour of sex, or $150 for a full night that includes oral sex (usually seen as demeaning by the island men). Second, some tourist women have reported that Caribbean lovers are over-rated, dulled by drink or dope; others can be chauvinistic, domineering, even violent.
Then there's the issue of the social impact of the sex trade. It affects ordinary tourists, who complain of harassment. It affects young mothers, who complain of the men not being around to provide for their children. Island women can also act hostile toward white vacationers, seeing them as home wreckers.
And of course there's the health risk.
Half a million people have HIV/AIDS in the Caribbean, where the rates of infection are second-only to sub-Saharan Africa: 3.8 per cent of the adult population in Haiti, 3.3 per cent in the Bahamas, 2.6 per cent in Trinidad and Tobago, 1.5 per cent in Jamaica and Barbados, and 1.1 per cent in the Dominican Republic, according to estimates by UNAIDS and the World Health Organization.
Those rates are exponentially higher than in Canada (0.3 per cent ) or the U.S. (0.6 per cent). Even so, female Caribbean sex tourists aren't especially preoccupied by the risk. Though most insist on condoms at first, after a few encounters they no longer do, studies show.
Is there any difference between female sex tourists and the more common type, men who travel to have sex? Foreign men on the prowl are a common sight all over the developing world, especially in southeast Asia, North Africa, Mexico and Brazil. Women, less so. How come?
People who have been part of the crowd - Belliveau, for example - point to a definite gender gap in sex tourism. Women travel for romance, men for prostitutes, they say. And unlike men, female sex tourists usually steer clear of teenagers and other child prostitutes - a huge difference.
In sex tourism, female pedophelia is "virtually unknown," Belliveau said. "There is nothing parallel to the situation where a male pedophile pays a greedy Thai or Dominican family enough money to buy a moped and in exchange gets a 12-year-old virgin."
There are rare exceptions - in Cuba, for example.
"You can go as young as you want in Cuba," one woman tourist in Jamaica told Tanika Gupta, author of Sugar Mummies, who was down there doing research for the play. She related the anecdote in an interview last July in The Independent, the London daily newspaper.
Whoever they sleep with, men and women who travel for sex aren't all that dissimilar, some academics argue. It's what they do that counts, not how they go about it.
In an article last August in Le Monde diplomatique, French anthropologist Franck Michel argued that global tourism and the sex trade have "turned the world into a gigantic theme park" for both men and women from developed countries. Eager to reap the "strong sensations" of sex provided by the poor of the south, they become masters of slaves - at least for the time of their visit.
"The new popularity of female sexual tourism shows that women are walking in men's footsteps, repeating the same representations of power, dominance and exploitation," Michel wrote.
Whether the master is male or female hardly makes a difference, other scholars agree.
"People say that because it's not hard-core prostitution, women having sex with the locals is acceptable," said Kempadoo, the York sociologist.
"But they're actually so similar in their practices, that I don't think one is more acceptable than the other."
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© Ottawa Citizen
Jeff Heinrich, Ottawa Citizen
Published: Monday, January 08, 2007
MONTREAL -- In winter, a tourist woman's fancy lustily turns to thoughts of sex.
By the thousands they descend on the Caribbean every year, women driven by one urge: to spend a week or two sleeping with local "beach boys" and paying them back in drinks, meals, gifts, and cash.
And it is Quebec women - with reputations as financially generous and uninhibited - who are among the best established in the island flesh trade.
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Sex tourists, they're called. Or as some prefer it, "romance travellers" looking for "love" and a little tenderness in the tropics.
This is the season - building to a travel peak in February and March - when business in Jamaica, Barbados and the Dominican Republic heats up.
Unlike most years, though, this winter's parade comes with a heap of advance media publicity. In 2006, there was lots:
On the screen and DVD, two movies dealt with the subject: Vers le sud, a French film based on stories by Quebec author Dany Laferriere, starring Charlotte Rampling as a British sex-seeker in late-1970s Haiti; and Rent-a-Rasta, a 45-minute U.S. documentary about women who flock to Jamaica in search of the "big bamboo" and the young Rastafarians who cater to them.
On the stage, there was Sugar Mummies, a much-reviewed play in London's Royal Court Theatre last August that starred Montreal-born Lynda Bellingham as a mid-life hedonist in Negril, the Jamaican sun resort.
On radio in December, female sex tourism was the topic of a long segment on the national CBC morning show, The Current.
And in print, there's a provocative new autobiographical book called Romance on the Road, by Jeannette Belliveau, a Baltimore travel writer of Acadian origin who was a sex tourist herself.
All the coverage begged an essential question: Is sex tourism by women any better or worse than sex tourism by men?
Does it just represent a new twist on exploitation of the Third World poor - in other words, prostitution with the roles reversed, the woman paying the man? Or is it simply a case of women exercising their right to choose what to do with their bodies?
There is no single correct answer, just points of view coloured by politics and morality. Scholars agree on one thing, though: female sex tourism is common enough and big enough to merit serious academic attention.
By some estimates, 600,000 Western women have engaged in travel sex sometime over the last 25 years - many of them as repeat customers, returning to the tropics every winter for some sun and some action.
"Seeing it in operation, it's quite a phenomenon - there's a whole system," said Kamala Kempadoo, a global sex-trade expert who teaches at York University in Toronto. Of Guyanese descent, she did field work on female sex tourism in Negril in 2000 and 2001.
"It's not just women on the beach, it's the nightlife. You go to a party and see couple after couple of older, quite substantial - I mean overweight - white women with very young, very lithe black men," Kempadoo said.
"It's quite a curious thing."
The root of it isn't just carnal. The women want a companion, too, someone to show them around, romance them, make them feel special and needed - something they don't feel at home.
But the names the men and women are known by colloquially belie the true nature of the transaction, some research suggests: It's sex for hire, where black men's flesh is tied - at least temporarily - to white women's pursestrings.
The men go by many monikers. In Jamaica and other former British colonies, they're called rent-a-gents, rent-a-Rastas, rent-a-tutes, the Foreign Service. In the Dominican Republic, they're sanky pankys (a play on 'hanky panky').
The tourist women get nicknames, too. British ones go by "Shirley Valentine" (from the 1989 hit movie of the same name, about a Liverpool housewife finding liberation in Greece). In Bermuda, they're "longtails" or "yellowtails."
In Jamaica, the name depends on the woman's colour: "Milk bottles" if they're white, newly arrived and, to put it crudely, "in need of filling" (as one Negril man put it to British writer Julie Bindel in 2003).
If they're black, the women are called Stellas (from the popular 1998 film How Stella Got Her Groove Back, about a black San Francisco stock broker on holiday in Jamaica).
Canadians have made it into the slang lexicon, too. In Barbados, female sex tourism has been dubbed "Canadian secretary syndrome."
In Martinique, locals refer to incoming flights of Air Canada as "Air Coucoune" - French for "Air Pussy."
Little wonder. Canadian women in search of sex have been coming to the Caribbean for years.
"You guys were the pioneers," said Belliveau, who sells her 410-page book through her publishing website.
"Pretty much the first group (of female sex tourists) in the Caribbean after the takeoff of jet travel (in the 60s) was French-Quebecois women in Barbados," Belliveau said. "They had a tremendously high reputation among the local beach boys. They were fun loving and generous and a real great time."
It's still true, added Belliveau, 52, an ex-journalist and divorcee who spent much of her 20s and 30s travelling the world and - as she freely admits - having sex wherever she went. (She's now remarried - to an African-American man.)
"Canadian women are mostly in Barbados now, which is somewhat upmarket; Jamaica is poorer," Belliveau said. "And the Dominican is slowly getting the reputation of having men that are very eager to be the world's best lovers. In the French islands, the men are more suave and gallant and won't accept payment."
But sex with the locals isn't without drawbacks or controversy.
The most obvious is money: according to a couple of studies in Jamaica, it can cost $20 to $30 for an hour of sex, or $150 for a full night that includes oral sex (usually seen as demeaning by the island men). Second, some tourist women have reported that Caribbean lovers are over-rated, dulled by drink or dope; others can be chauvinistic, domineering, even violent.
Then there's the issue of the social impact of the sex trade. It affects ordinary tourists, who complain of harassment. It affects young mothers, who complain of the men not being around to provide for their children. Island women can also act hostile toward white vacationers, seeing them as home wreckers.
And of course there's the health risk.
Half a million people have HIV/AIDS in the Caribbean, where the rates of infection are second-only to sub-Saharan Africa: 3.8 per cent of the adult population in Haiti, 3.3 per cent in the Bahamas, 2.6 per cent in Trinidad and Tobago, 1.5 per cent in Jamaica and Barbados, and 1.1 per cent in the Dominican Republic, according to estimates by UNAIDS and the World Health Organization.
Those rates are exponentially higher than in Canada (0.3 per cent ) or the U.S. (0.6 per cent). Even so, female Caribbean sex tourists aren't especially preoccupied by the risk. Though most insist on condoms at first, after a few encounters they no longer do, studies show.
Is there any difference between female sex tourists and the more common type, men who travel to have sex? Foreign men on the prowl are a common sight all over the developing world, especially in southeast Asia, North Africa, Mexico and Brazil. Women, less so. How come?
People who have been part of the crowd - Belliveau, for example - point to a definite gender gap in sex tourism. Women travel for romance, men for prostitutes, they say. And unlike men, female sex tourists usually steer clear of teenagers and other child prostitutes - a huge difference.
In sex tourism, female pedophelia is "virtually unknown," Belliveau said. "There is nothing parallel to the situation where a male pedophile pays a greedy Thai or Dominican family enough money to buy a moped and in exchange gets a 12-year-old virgin."
There are rare exceptions - in Cuba, for example.
"You can go as young as you want in Cuba," one woman tourist in Jamaica told Tanika Gupta, author of Sugar Mummies, who was down there doing research for the play. She related the anecdote in an interview last July in The Independent, the London daily newspaper.
Whoever they sleep with, men and women who travel for sex aren't all that dissimilar, some academics argue. It's what they do that counts, not how they go about it.
In an article last August in Le Monde diplomatique, French anthropologist Franck Michel argued that global tourism and the sex trade have "turned the world into a gigantic theme park" for both men and women from developed countries. Eager to reap the "strong sensations" of sex provided by the poor of the south, they become masters of slaves - at least for the time of their visit.
"The new popularity of female sexual tourism shows that women are walking in men's footsteps, repeating the same representations of power, dominance and exploitation," Michel wrote.
Whether the master is male or female hardly makes a difference, other scholars agree.
"People say that because it's not hard-core prostitution, women having sex with the locals is acceptable," said Kempadoo, the York sociologist.
"But they're actually so similar in their practices, that I don't think one is more acceptable than the other."
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:10 PMCanadians travel for many reasons. Business, vacation, adventure and relaxation.
A few Canadians travel for the purpose of engaging in sexual conduct with children. In doing so, they take advantage of the poverty and powerlessness of foreign children, expecting to exploit weaknesses in law enforcement.
Such travel exploits children worldwide. Experts estimate that more than a million children are lured or sold into the sex trade each year. Many are forced into prostitution by their parents or by their own homelessness or poverty. Many in rural areas are promised respectable jobs in cities and then forced into the sex trade.
The Canadian government is committed to protecting children from this abuse. Although the numbers are believed to be low, some Canadians do travel to other countries for the express purpose of sex with children.
They travel to places where they wrongly assume that sex with children is acceptable or they think that there are no consequences. Some seek children with the misconception that the younger the prostitute, the less likely they will be infected with AIDS. Some are seeking new sexual experiences they would not attempt at home. Some don't even realize their partners are underage.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 11:38 PM>> Although the numbers are believed to be low, some Canadians do travel to other countries for the express purpose of sex with children. <<
what suggestive yet meaningless statement.
>> They travel to places where they wrongly assume that sex with children is acceptable or they think that there are no consequences. Some seek children with the misconception that the younger the prostitute, the less likely they will be infected with AIDS. Some are seeking new sexual experiences they would not attempt at home. Some don't even realize their partners are underage. <<
christ! this sounds as if it were written by a jilted member of NAMBLA. what a messed up little kick you've embarked upon Cliffie.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:10 PMThis obsession of yours is more disturbing than your obsession with Al Gore.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:18 PM****************I've got an idea! Why don't you start a thread saying that Al Gore is a Canadian Pedophile!!************
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I'd love to I really would. However I haven't got one tiny shred, not a a scrap, not a ghost of a hint, nothing at all that in any way suggests that BoZo is a pervert.
A lying sack of ignorant shit maybe but nothing related to sex.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:23 PMhey. . .send those shirleys and stellas and milk bottles to arizona! nice and warm (and friendly) here too! -
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:30 PMI wonder how the cannoks feel about having their dirty filthy perversions aired publicly?
I mean it's gotta hurt when they are up there with all that La Fin Du Mond and mulled cider and cheese and what not and here I am in the evil USA poking fun at them for being a pack of pedophiles.
It's so bad that there are magazine articles making pedophilia in Canada out to (and very clearly so) be a national pastime.
Winters are what 6 months in Canada??
Makes me want to re-write the anthem
Oh Canada
Home of the molester ~~~ ~ ~ ~
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:31 PMhowever, your title is misleading. . .the article specifically states that woman are not interested in children or teenagers even. was that deliberate on your part? sensationalism is great, but if you really want to get noticed include pics. -
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:31 PMlet's see some of those canadian babes, cliff!
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:51 PM****however, your title is misleading. . .the article specifically states that woman are not interested in children or teenagers even. was that deliberate on your part? sensationalism is great, but if you really want to get noticed include pics.****************
Yah they say that yet they are undiscerning about the actual ages of their slaves. So they say to the resort manager:
"Oh I'm not looking for a child - - per se. I mean it doesn't have to be a child. However, if all you got is a 10 year old and he can find my clitty with his tongue then OK great~!! Strip his ass nekked and bring him on~!!"
Swap the gender terms around any way you please. I'm sure there are men who prefer either boys or girls just as surely as there are women. There may be some who don't care so long as the children can perform.
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They travel to places where they wrongly assume that sex with children is acceptable or they think that there are no consequences. Some seek children with the misconception that the younger the prostitute, the less likely they will be infected with AIDS. Some are seeking new sexual experiences they would not attempt at home. Some don't even realize their partners are underage.
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If it's wrong at home why is it OK elsewhere?
Canada, a nation of pedophiles.
And there's Canadians on their high horse condemning the USA ?
Gimmie a break~!!
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:16 PMAge of Consent at 14 Makes Canada Favoured Sex Tourism Destination
Canada a haven for pedophiles
By Hilary White
OTTAWA, December 19, 2006 (LifeSiteNews.com) – A newly released report says that the age of consent for vaginal sex in Canada – currently set at 14 – has made this country a favorite destination for child-sex “tourism”. The Global Monitoring Report on the Status of Action against the Commercial Sexual Exploitation of Children, says that Canada’s age of consent has made Canada a haven for pedophiles.
The report was issued by the Bangkok-based organization, End Child Prostitution, Child Pornography and Trafficking of Children for Sexual Purposes, or ECPAT International. It gives Canada 17 recommendations, including raising the age of consent from 14 to 16.
EPCAT International monitors and studies the problem of child sexual exploitation around the world. The Global Monitoring Report says that legal action is not enough and that a culture of sexual exploitation of children has arisen around the world in recent years, particularly in media imagery and the internet. This, the group says, coincides with trends of children being frequently victimized by adults for commercial sex, “under the wrongful concept of their ability to consent to exploitation.”
The report recommends that “all children up to the age of 18 …be afforded legal protection from commercial sexual exploitation.”
A bill to raise the age of consent, one of the first to be put forward by Canada’s Conservative government, passed second reading in the House of Commons in October.
Federal Justice Minister Vic Toews told the CBC that Americans are being prosecuted under US laws for using Canada as a sex-tourism destination. “It's ironic in Canada we can't prosecute them, and yet Americans coming here and taking advantage of our children, when they go back, can face criminal prosecutions and lengthy imprisonment." Toews told the CBC.
The CBC report quotes Toronto police constable, Paul Krawczyk, who said, “I've been in pedophile chat rooms that discuss Canada having such a low age of consent that they tell other pedophiles to travel to Canada because of that. Sixty-year-olds engaging in sexual activities with 14 or 15-year-olds is not appropriate.”
The federal government’s proposal to raise the age of consent in Canada from 14 to 16 was vocally opposed by homosexual advocacy groups who accused the government of attacking the sexual freedoms of young people.
As a longtime proponent of raising the age of consent, Toews responded in June when the government tabled their bill, “Adults who sexually prey upon young people are the targets of these reforms, not consenting teenagers.”
The proposed legislation includes a close-in-age clause that means young people 14 or 15 can have sexual relations with someone “less than five years older.”
The sides are clearly lined up in the war over child-protection and the age of consent. After the Conservatives tabled the bill, the Coalition For Lesbian And Gay Rights In Ontario and the Sex Laws Committee said raising the age would discriminate against the sexual choices of gay youth.
Planned Parenthood Ottawa and the Canadian AIDS Society also criticized the bill saying it would interfere with efforts to educate youth about pregnancy, disease prevention and sexual rights.
This February, the homosexual activist group EGALE (Equality for Gays and Lesbians Everywhere), asked the government to lower the age of consent for anal sex to 16 from its current 18, saying that the difference only served to “stigmatize gay men.”
Following this, in November, a Liberal Party policy resolution, attributed to the British Columbia branch of the Party, called for the lowering of the age of consent for anal sex.
Gay Activists Ask Canada to Lower Age of Consent for Anal Sex, National Post Agrees
www.lifesite.net/ldn/2006/...21403.html
International Group Urges Canada to Raise Age of Consent, Urges Against Legalizing Prostitution
www.lifesite.net/ldn/2005/...31406.html
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 1:38 PMCanada lax in tackling global sex trade
November 7, 2007
Canada may have a tough law on the books against so-called child-sex tourism – where men visit other countries just to have sex with children – but it is lagging behind other countries in enforcing the law.
As the Toronto Star reported, critics have noted that in the 10 years since Parliament passed this law, only one person has ever been convicted under it. Yet Australia and the United States “both have had dozens more arrests and convictions.”
“We have a lot of sex travelers who leave Canada to have sex with children abroad,” Paul Gillespie, vice-chair of the Kids’ Internet Safety Alliance, told the Star. “I don’t think Canada has any idea how bad the situation is with our predators. . . .”
Recently, University of British Columbia law professor Benjamin Perrin told the CBC that the two men arrested in the past month on charges of allegedly having had sex with young children in southeast Asian countries are just the latest among the 110 Canadians charged overseas in the last 10 years with similar crimes.
“That’s a significant problem,” said Perrin, who in 2000 founded The Future Group, an international organization that battles human trafficking and child-sex tourism. “Canada is contributing far more to the international sex trade problem than it is to the solution.”
In fact, child-sex tourism is just part of the larger global scourge of human trafficking, in which organized criminals enslave children and women mostly for sexual purposes.
“There are at least 27 million people trapped in various forms of slavery, and that is more people than were trafficked from Africa 400 years ago,” Jamie McIntosh, executive director of the Christian-led International Justice Mission Canada, told the National Post. “It’s snuffing out our brothers and sisters around the world.”
And yet, according to Perrin, “Canada has not convicted a single person of the offence of human trafficking, while the United States has successfully prosecuted hundreds.”
Manitoba Conservative MP Joy Smith is hoping to counter these embarrassing statistics with two private members’ bills she is currently preparing, the National Post reported.
One would make it illegal to transmit, distribute or advertise any information for the means of sexual exploitation, and especially information on how to exploit a child or where to do it. Those found guilty would face a maximum prison sentence of 15 years.
A second bill would require convicted pedophiles wanting to travel outside Canada following their release to let authorities know of their destination a week in advance and to report in within three days of their arrival.
“That’s admirable,” wrote Toronto Sun columnist Lorrie Goldstein, “but it would be better if Prime Minister Stephen Harper took over this issue and introduced the appropriate legislation as a Conservative government initiative.”
Meanwhile, a new report from The Future Group warns organizers of the 2010 Winter Olympics slated for Vancouver that such large international events typically result in an increase in prostitution-related human trafficking. It also suggests ways that authorities can combat the problem, the Vancouver Sun reported.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 2:13 PMCanadian suspect in Thai child-sex charges in court
Updated Wed. Nov. 7 2007 1:59 PM ET
The Canadian Press
ABBOTSFORD, B.C. -- A Canadian wanted on child-sex charges in Thailand and being held in B.C. will be asking to be freed from custody.
Orville Mader made a brief appearance in an Abbotsford, B.C., court via video link today to confirm he has obtained a lawyer and will make a bail application tomorrow.
The 54-year-old Kitchener, Ont., resident, who has a home in the Vancouver area but apparently has lived in Asia for years, is wanted in Thailand on allegations he had sex with an eight-year-old boy.
A federal Justice Department official says the Thai authorities so far have not filed an extradition request.
Mader was arrested last Friday after stepping off a flight at Vancouver International Airport and held under a protective order after a provincial court judge ruled he could present a threat to children.
The Crown said last week Mader can go free if he agrees to conditions that keep him away from places frequented by kids, such as playgrounds, schoolyards and community centres.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 2:14 PMAn international manhunt has been launched after Thai police named a suspected paedophile as Christopher Paul Neil, a 32-year-old Canadian.
Authorities in Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam are searching for Mr Neil, of British Columbia, who allegedly appears in 200 online images abusing boys.
He studied to become a priest and was a youth counsellor before moving to Asia.
His younger brother, Matthew Neil, said his family was "in shock" and appealed for Mr Neil to turn himself in.
Interpol had appealed for public help after experts unscrambled digitally-swirled internet photos of the suspect.
It was the first time the international police agency had made a direct worldwide appeal for public information in a case.
Extradition order
Interpol said the suspect had flown from South Korea - where he was working as an English teacher - to Thailand last week.
All the countries in this region have all been alerted... and they all have border controls in place in an effort to spot the movements of this man
Mick Moran
Interpol
Border guards in the three South-East Asian countries were on alert after the suspect arrived in Bangkok from the South Korean capital, Seoul, on a one-way, full-fare ticket last week, said Interpol officer Mick Moran, who is leading the manhunt.
The Canadian had given a false address on his Thai immigration form, he said.
Kim Scanlan, from the Toronto police child exploitation unit, said Mr Neil would be extradited to Canada upon his arrest.
Thai police believe the suspect is still in Thailand, Colonel Apichart Suribunya told Associated Press news agency.
They are also searching for children he allegedly abused and took photos of, said Interpol's chief in Thailand, Panaspong Sirawongse.
Mr Panaspong said Mr Neil had worked at an international school in Thailand between 2003 and 2004.
"There were three boys he had abused. One boy has been identified and is being sought, two others have not been identified," he said.
UNFOLDING INVESTIGATION
Dec 2004: Abuse photos, some date-stamped 2002 or 2003, found on internet
8 Oct 2007: Interpol's global appeal for information
9 Oct: Interpol says more than 200 responses received
11 Oct: Suspect flies into Bangkok on one-way ticket
Interpol released an image of the man arriving at Bangkok airport on 11 October.
"All the countries in this region have all been alerted - they're all on alert and they all have border controls in place in an effort to spot the movements of this man," Mr Moran said.
He added: "I have no doubt that he left Korea when he saw himself on the internet."
'Mother devastated'
Canada's CBC reported that Mr Neil studied to become a priest before leaving for Asia.
He also worked as a military chaplain and youth counsellor for children aged between 12 and 18 from 1998 to 2000 at a cadet training centre in Nova Scotia, said Capt Hope Carr, a Canadian military spokesman.
No complaints about Mr Neil were received during that time, Capt Carr said.
Matthew Neil, 30, said Royal Canadian Mounted Police (RCMP) told his family of the allegations against his brother last week.
"My mother is devastated and the family is in shock," he said from the family home in Maple Ridge, in the Canadian province of British Columbia.
"We're co-operating with RCMP and Interpol. We're hoping this comes to a quick close."
Identity puzzle
Internet photographs of the suspect show him apparently abusing 12 boys in Vietnam and Cambodia.
Image of suspect shown on Interpol website
The man was spotted at Bangkok's international airport last week
The first pictures were found three years ago in Germany. They had been manipulated to disguise the man's face with a swirl pattern, but German computer specialists produced identifiable images that were posted on Interpol's website a week ago.
After an appeal for information, the suspect was identified by five different sources from three continents as a man teaching English at a school in South Korea, Interpol said.
Police then established his name, nationality, date of birth, passport number and current and previous places of work.
Interpol maintains a database of 520,000 images of child sex abuse submitted by 36 member states.
Using sophisticated software, investigators have identified and rescued nearly 600 victims from 31 countries.
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In sex tourism, female pedophelia is "virtually unknown," Belliveau said. "There is nothing parallel to the situation where a male pedophile pays a greedy Thai or Dominican family enough money to buy a moped and in exchange gets a 12-year-old virgin."
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 10:02 PMLorenzo:
> In sex tourism, female pedophelia is "virtually unknown," Belliveau said. "There is nothing parallel to the situation where a male pedophile pays a greedy Thai or Dominican family enough money to buy a moped and in exchange gets a 12-year-old virgin."
It's not quite the same, but you do hear of 70-year old European women renting out 20-something year old Egyptian men.
> let's see some of those canadian babes, cliff!
www.joblo.com/index.php
www.canadaka.net/babes
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 2:19 PMBy Ambika Ahuja, Associated Press Writer | October 19, 2007
BANGKOK, Thailand --A three-year global manhunt for a Canadian schoolteacher suspected of sexually abusing Asian boys ended Friday when police raided a house in northeastern Thailand -- off the usual tourist trail -- and arrested Christopher Paul Neil.
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Police tracked Neil to the house in Nakhon Ratchasima province that he shared with a Thai transvestite friend whose phone calls were traced by authorities.
Neil, who surrendered peacefully, was found though high-tech police work that relied on digitally unscrambled photos and tips from the public after an unprecedented worldwide appeal via the Internet.
"I think he knew we were coming," said police Col. Paisal Luesomboon, who was on the five-member police team that made the arrest. "He knew that there was an arrest warrant issued and that his face was posted everywhere."
He said Neil, 32, acknowledged being the man they were seeking, but didn't comment on whether he was the person depicted in about 200 Internet photos having sex with a dozen different boys between the ages of 6 and 12.
Only 10 days earlier, Interpol had issued the appeal to identify the man whose face had been digitally obscured by swirling part of the original photos.
After German police computer experts were able to reverse the process, making the face recognizable, some photos of the man were publicly circulated, and hundreds of people responded with tips on his identity, leading to Neil's arrest.
"Let all international criminals and fugitives be put on notice that Interpol, its police partners in 186 member countries, the public and the Internet present new and powerful possibilities for hunting them down wherever they might try to hide," Interpol Secretary General Ronald K. Noble said in a statement issued in France, where the international police agency is based.
After his arrest, Neil was driven to Bangkok, where -- in handcuffs and with a blue shirt draped over his head -- officers led him into national police headquarters. He made no comments to waiting reporters.
He remained silent and unsmiling when he was presented to journalists at a news conference, where the shirt was removed from his head but his eyes remained hidden behind sunglasses.
"He wants to exercise his rights not to speak until he gets legal advice," said Maj. Gen. Wongkot Maneerin, deputy national police chief.
Neil was charged Friday with detention of a child under 15 without parental consent, punishable by up to three years in prison; taking a child under 15 from his parents without consent, punishable by five to 20 years; and sexual abuse of a child under 15, punishable by up to 10 years.
He is supposed to be brought before a judge Saturday in order for police to keep him in custody pending further investigation.Continued...
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 2:41 PM
Sex tourism as economic aid
July 12 2003
Middle-aged women jetting into Jamaica for sex don't see themselves as using prostitutes, writes Julie Bindel.
Two flights are due into Montego Bay Airport, one from Toronto, the other from London. Clinton waits on the beach for the new arrivals, hoping that one of them will bring him good fortune. "I look for the milk bottles," he says, explaining how ultra-white skin is a giveaway, "the ones who've just arrived. Milk bottles that need filling ..."
Negril, with its 11-kilometre stretch of pristine sand and turquoise sea, attracts the majority of Jamaica's 1.3 million tourists every year, primarily from the United States, Canada and Europe. It is known as a "swinging" resort.
Many white Western women come to Negril for precisely that. Clinton is one of hundreds of young men working the beach and, like most of the "beach boys", he is desperately poor. His primary income comes from accompanying lone female travellers who want sex with Jamaican men.
He lives with his family in a shack with no electricity or running water. In contrast, the hotels and apartments that line the beach are luxurious, with rooms costing $US200 ($300) a night. While some beach boys may be content to have their meals paid for, the goal is marriage to a Westerner and a ticket out of poverty.
Clinton has a "regular girlfriend", a 45-year-old Canadian professional who comes to see him four times a year. "She's a good friend and she looks after me. Sends me money when I can't pay my rent." Clinton says he works "in the tourist industry" and won't admit he is a beach boy. "If I take a tourist out, and she wants to help me out as a friend, give me money and let me stay with her in the hotel, what's wrong with that? Of course I have sex with them, but that's because I'm not gay - I like women."
Clinton's current "girlfriend" is a 50-year-old grandmother from the US, whom he met the day before.
Negril, like some resorts in the Dominican Republic and Cuba, is known as a place where white middle-aged women come in search of what they call the "big bamboo". British researchers Jacqueline Sanchez Taylor and Julia O'Connell Davidson found that the usual analysis of sex tourism did not allow for the possibility of women as buyers of sex, because "prostitute-users are, by definition, male, and this assumption is shared by many researchers and theorists".
The two researchers interviewed 240 women holidaying in Negril and two similar resorts in the Dominican Republic. Almost a third of the interviewees had engaged in sexual relationships with local men during their holiday. Though 60 per cent admitted to certain "economic elements" to their liaisons, they did not perceive the encounters as prostitute-client transactions, nor did they view their sexual partners as prostitutes.
Those who admit to coming to Negril for sex believe they are helping the men and the local economy by giving them money and gifts.
HIV and AIDS figures reflect the fact that condom use by the beach boys is sporadic. In the tourist areas, the number of those infected is higher than elsewhere on the island. Last year, an estimated 20,000 adults and children out of a population of 2.6 million were living with AIDS or HIV - a figure that had more than doubled in two years.
Ms Sanchez Taylor and Ms O'Connell Davidson suggest that the reason many female tourists are able to delude themselves into believing they are not prostitute users lies in their racialised power over the men: "Racist ideas about black men being hypersexual and unable to control their sexuality enable them to explain to themselves why such young and desirable men would be eager for sex with older and/or overweight women, without having to think that their partners are interested in them only for economic reasons."
The Guardian
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 2:44 PMwow cliff you seem really "interested" in this topic! -
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 3:04 PMWell, the first I saw of Cliff he was going on about teen girl breasts, so no surprise. he seems to have lost his interest in trannies. Not sure that's an advance of decline.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 9:22 PMHow is this a political issue?
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 9:58 PMyou don't get it Ron ?
the politicians make the laws
the status of "pedophilia" in legal form, is an POLITICAL STATUS
I start to have sex at age 15 with girls around my age
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:30 AM********I start to have sex at age 15 with girls around my age
do you think ? I was a pedophile ?*************
Not if you apply the normative definition that is when an adult identifies children as sexual objects.
As a child you were quite reasonably identifying your sexual attractions within your own age and social grouping.
One of the oddest things about pedophilia ( and prostitution) is the isolation factor.
People who identify and use sexual objects that are outside their social level of competence are almost sort of treating those persons like inanimate objects that happen to be warm and auto-perambulant. Like lifelike toys.
You can't have a meaningful adult relationship with a child. A relationship between an adult and a child can really only be some form of mentoring. The child can not relate to the more vast experience and knowledge an adult brings to the table. Same with a prostitute. It's a business transaction and does not include any meaningful interaction on any social level.
As events go both prostitution and pedophilia are weirdly isolationist. It is hard to imagine how they can be even remotely desirable when the world is so full of willing adults. I think that both are the extension of some form of psychosis.
Margaret Mead studied an isolated culture that treats the children to a sexual education in a mentoring format. That particular social order does not raise children in family units. Rather the village raises the children as a collective entity. No one really knows who is the biological parent of any particular child. At some point in the children's development the adults of the villages take them to bed to teach them how to be good lovers and mates. They have been doing this for as long as anthropologists have been able to tell and as a little isolated society they are OK.
However, the mentoring aspect is central. It's not simply using the children and dispensing with them. And of course there is the part about how in that society it is the norm. Every one sees the practice as the thing you should do as opposed to attaching stigma to it.
There is no such case to be made for pedophilia along those lines.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 9:59 PM<...How is this a political issue?
Just a curiosity?...>
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 10:07 PMc'mon cliff.........
I know you hate Europeans and Canadians................might it be that you hate them for their freedom....like al qaida hates the US for their freedom?
anyway..........i could ( but will not) google about beer bellied red necks , banging little girls in thailand or the philipines. -
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 11:41 PM>> might it be that you hate them for their freedom.... <<
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 11:58 PMthose of us that lived in the tri-state area learned to hate Canadians for many reasons. freedom was never one of them.
and they are?
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:39 AM***************anyway..........i could ( but will not) google about beer bellied red necks , banging little girls in thailand or the philipines.********
You could google yes you could. But, you would be way more likely to find that Swedes and Norwegans are more likely to be fat fifty and naked on a Thai beach with an 8 year old face down in their laps.
You might also find that Latvia is the new "Bankok of the Baltic" being invaded by Northern Europeans for sex tourism which unfortunately includes children on the menu.
But you have fun with your "beer bellied rednecks" and your other massively bigoted notions.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:32 AM*********Just a lewd and salacious troll thread from the bear-ass.***********
Doing what you usually do I see: Displaying the absolute failure of incompetent parents.
One would think you'd have sought help for this over the years. It's not too late.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:14 AM*********How is this a political issue? ************
I should think it is entirely political.
Every bit as political as a military action somewhere. Maybe more so.
After all it's political will - or the lack of it that prevents Canada from enforcing those laws they have.
Same for the fact that Canada has not got a national law requiring people to report child abuse or kiddie porn.
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 11:18 PMThat could be averted if jobs were available for people. However people have no jobs, so they have to find money elsewhere. -
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Tue, December 11, 2007 - 11:43 PMThey should do like we do here - just print more money.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:15 AM************That could be averted if jobs were available for people. However people have no jobs, so they have to find money elsewhere.*******
So Canada is off the hook for being a pedophile nation because the islands haven't got lots of jobs?
That is twisted - -totally twisted.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:33 AMAh, the powers of projection!
Cliff seems to be saying that if it's legal to have sex with 14 year olds, then, by-golly, people will of course have sex with 14 year olds because what could be more desirable--it only makes sense.
Of course, Cliff has already made this argument in his hosannas to 12 year old girls' chests.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:46 AM***********Cliff seems to be saying that if it's legal to have sex with 14 year olds, then, by-golly, people will of course have sex with 14 year olds because what could be more desirable--it only makes sense.***********
Not I but clearly you just did.
**********Of course, Cliff has already made this argument in his hosannas to 12 year old girls' chests.**********
Closer and closer you get. Didn't you get read the riot act by Tribe when last you got all worked up on these perverted flights of fancy?
Yes, in fact you did. Want to try it again?
*****************meanwhile, he's no doubt happily sending off his tax dollars so Halliburton employees can rape people.**********
Unfortunately you are incapable of apprehending that companies like Kellogg, Brown & Root, and Halliburton are the sole players in the rarefied world of construction projects in war zones.
It is either that you are simply ignorant or maybe willfully so. I don't know nor do I much care, However unless and until there are more companies vying to to that sort of thing there will always and only be those few players over and over again. And of course because it's war zones and humans and all the negative shit that implies there will always be corruption of all sorts.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:53 AM>Didn't you get read the riot act by Tribe when last you got all worked up on these perverted flights of fancy?
Er--no. You were the one who couldn't stop talking about them.
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:55 AM>Unfortunately you are incapable of apprehending that companies like Kellogg, Brown & Root, and Halliburton are the sole players in the rarefied world of construction projects in war zones.
And as we all know, construction project workers--well, they ALL commit rape and their companies OF COURSE cover for them. It's only natural!
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 9:23 AM************And as we all know, construction project workers--well, they ALL commit rape and their companies OF COURSE cover for them. It's only natural!****************
I am unsure how you get to that conclusion. However war zones tend to be places where humans tend to display a rather lot of their worst behaviors. Ignorance of that is - - well it's pretty damn ignorant, and I don't believe you are that ignorant.
It seems Ian, that you are hell bent on trying to find ways to get under my skin and cause deliberate offense.
Is this merely because you don't like my politics or have I caused you a harm on a somewhat more personal level~?
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 9:44 AM**********Er--no. You were the one who couldn't stop talking about them. **********
Er - - Yes you did., You got royally spanked.
And all I did was make post about a trial where the defendant got the shit end of a stick by some really slutty girls.
You were then as you are now all about making everything personal in a negative way.
Which is Ian, and intensely immature character failing.
Why is it that you insist on making things so negatively personal? Is it that your parents failed to teach you even the most basic of manners?
Is that it: parental failure?
So you are going to spend your life pissing about on the internet engaging in bitter quarrelsome antics because your parents failed you?
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 8:55 AMCanada just doesn't think every one of it's citizens is a pedophile, unlike the USA where laws are already designed to treat 'everyone' as if they were guilty of pedophilia.
Just clicking this link etches a permanent record of your illicit activity into your hard drive.
www.youtube.com/watch
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 9:25 AM**************Canada just doesn't think every one of it's citizens is a pedophile, unlike the USA where laws are already designed to treat 'everyone' as if they were guilty of pedophilia. ************
Sadly w we here in the US-of-A have criminalized ourselves into one corner after another.
That guy's mouth is scary~!!
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 9:51 AMWhat!?!? You can get paid to have sex with white women?!? Why haven't I heard about this? I am getting my calculator out and figuring out how much I can bill my wife for, can prostitution be retroactive? or is that in bad taste? -
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 10:16 AMI don't know why you couldn't.
Cindy Crawford was paying me.
Or was that just a dream?
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 11:18 AM>>Er - - Yes you did., You got royally spanked.
No I did not. By anyone. I'm getting a bit quesy at your Craig-ian use of the word 'spanked'.
>>And all I did was make post about a trial where the defendant got the shit end of a stick by some really slutty girls.
You were then as you are now all about making everything personal in a negative way.
Which is Ian, and intensely immature character failing.
You went on and on and on about how 'hot' slutty girls caused all manner of problems, with endless details about what made them' hot.'
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Wed, December 12, 2007 - 12:08 PMYAh YAh sure sure. lies lies lies.
And you still will not come clean about your rather bizarre need to be personally offensive - and for no provocation.
What is with you? What happened in your life that made you reach the epiphanal moment where you simply decided that the best way to disagree was to quarrel bicker and snipe making deliberately offensive gestures~? Please do tell how does a person get to that place in their thinking~?
And of course what positive thing have you hoped to obtain from such a course of conduct? And have you achieved it~?
This should be most interesting. I say that not merely because I have some personal curiosity but because there are a great many people who seem to suffer from the same affliction. Mind you I don't intend to credit you with having employed any legitimate form of communication. In fact I rather believe that what you have done is wrong and polarizing. But you seem enamored of it so it stands to reason that you see some positive in it somewhere.
So then out with it Ian, What is so good about being deliberately and needlessly offensive~?
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Thu, January 17, 2008 - 12:28 PMbumpity
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 8:21 AMEyes are on the pedophile nation. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 10:11 AMHe studied to become a priest''
Hah!!!! strong evidence that this is not a CANADIAN deal but yet another CATHOLIC CHURCH situation. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 10:57 AMSeeking the protection and shelter of the 'Crimens Solliciatanus' document.
news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/progr...5389684.stm
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 10:59 AMthe question is what makes pedophilia growing this way?? i think we live in perverted world in general. obssesion with sex went insane. -
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Sun, January 20, 2008 - 12:50 PMA superb question indeed. In Africa the Shamen teach that you can get rid of AIDS by fucking a virgin. It's a common myth throughout the continent with a great many adherents trying to cure themselves. . However virgins older than 5 or 6 years are not nearly so common.
The Canadians don't have any such excuse as the ignorant illiterate dirt worshipers of rural africa. It's hard to imagine why they are able to screw themselves up to see children ad sex objects. Children are not likely to be proficient lovers nor are the any fun as companions.
While I understand the preference for youth, if for no other reason its beauty, the beauty of youth as a sexually appealing thing starts when the body reaches it's fullness. The late teens is about as early as it gets.
It makes sense that one or two perverts from here and there might coalesce to form a larger collection of monsters gathered in places where children are sold for pleasure such as Thailand or Cuba. However, it is entirely puzzling how Canada could produce so many perverts unless the culture of Canada is somehow deeply defective.
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