A really fucked up photo:

topic posted Thu, May 15, 2008 - 4:02 AM by 
uspolitics.tribe.net/photos/...812fd8e3

While that photo should not be removed, it's obscene to say the least.

I wonder how people would like to see a picture of a South Central gangbanger with a white hood on his head while he's burning a cross. That'd be 'art', too.

To compare Jews to Nazis out of any understandable or explained context is nothing but wrong and shameful, and Killa Cham should be ashamed of himself.
  • You believe in censorhip

    Fri, May 16, 2008 - 5:35 AM
    as Hitler did. I applaud you, that is just what the picture is trying to say.

    what is appealing about it?

    Oops I meant appalling. LOL

    The injustice is that Israel has not been punished for its crimes.

    I also find these other two photos examples of my idiocy:

    1) uspolitics.tribe.net/photos/...27f1daf7
    It is idiotic to show that jews do not support zionism

    2) uspolitics.tribe.net/photos/...b947662e
    It is wrong to show that Judaism does not support zionism.

    The photo simply shows that Nazi ideologies have been retained by many within the religion of Judaism, but Israel's crimes are acceptable while Nazi crimes are not. If I was a Jew with those destructive ideologies, when someone calls me out, I would get offended. The truth hurts more than lies.

    I only wonder if the realities upset you more than the image. It is ironic, as you did not complain about Happy Killmore image of Mohamed. you are so full of shit you need an enema.
    uspolitics.tribe.net/photos/...4d7a6a57

    I am getting sick of the crying baby picture, but now I understand it.

    so like Justin Timberlake said:
    Cry me a fuckin river

    What cracks me up is how people bitch about a picture, and support the massacre of living people in order to steal land. It just shows how full of shit you really are. So all I gotta say, unless you missed it, or can't picture it:
    uspolitics.tribe.net/photos/...8cad182f
    uspolitics.tribe.net/photos/...22d41745




  • Re: A really fucked up photo:

    Fri, May 16, 2008 - 6:02 AM
    <im not a nazi or a facist>
    I can see how a nazi or fascist can get a bit offended, so I must apologize to all the Nazis and Fascists in this tribe who are offended by the photo.

    here are some really fucked up photos that are not art, they are reality:
    www.thewe.cc/thewei/&_/i..._wounded.jpe
    www.thewe.cc/thewei/imag...files/17.jpg

    Jewish settlers threw a molotov cocktail at this child.
    www.thewe.cc/thewei/imag...iles/18a.jpg

    www.thewe.cc/thewei/imag...files/24.jpg

    buried alive in rubble
    www.thewe.cc/thewei/imag...files/27.jpg

    Keep bitching about a cartoon, and I will bitch about reality, and we will see who is more in touch with reality.

    When you idiots finally realize how fucked up you and Israel are, you will understand why they hate you and call for the destruction of Israel. When you stop being greedy wortless fucks, and learn that charity is the best policy you will attain peace. If it pisses you off to see and hear the truth so fuckin be it. I am tired of America's tax dollars funding terror, fascism, and genocide in the guise of defense. When they only thing Israel is defending is stolen territory.

    Fuck Nazis, Hitler, and all who act like them.

    • Re: A really fucked up photo:

      Fri, May 16, 2008 - 6:16 AM
      That is an interesting Star of David though. I've never seen one like that. I'm not anti-semetic either but I like symbols and that is cool. It doesnt matter if it represents "good" or "evil." It's a symbol that does a perfect job of representing something. Just because someone posts a picture of it doesnt mean they are pro or con. Although depending on who posts it I suppose it could. I think a bit of a description along with the photo would be good. The photo actually speaks for itself but if the poster would have provided some form of commentary it would possibly be better than posting it without any. But hasnt Killa Cham always been a racist? Or did he change?

      And just for the record, burning a book is idiotic. I own a first English edition of Mein Kampf. I found it at a sidewalk sale for 4 dollars. It's not something I "like." I keep it for the historical / educational value of it. I think everyone should be required to read it so everyone will know what it says. Everyone should understand how so many people embraced this book and also how many rejected it wholeheartedly. Burning it doesnt make it go away. Reading it and putting it into perspective is the wisest thing anyone can do.

      This reminds me of my friends Christian mother when I was 18 and she'd throw away all my occult books and tell me the only book I need to read is the Bible. So fucking stupid!!!
  • Re: A really fucked up photo:

    Fri, May 16, 2008 - 10:56 AM
    Star of David weighs more than Lucky Star.

    So¿

    relax folks; UNLESS YOU HATE THE LETTER "P" LIKE I DO

    number 237, too - fucking 237 is the sign of evil y'all

    I'm resisting the urge to show you what a "really fucked up photo" actually looks like.
  • wow, that is pretty fucked up

    Sat, May 17, 2008 - 1:48 AM
    Yeah I agree. The photo I posted is more fucked up than the real actions noted in the other photos I posted. Just kidding that would be idiotic

    I continuously find it rather funny how "some guys" always pull their anti-stupidic card in defense of horrendous action. Forgive me for being real.

    Insult me all you want, then comment on the fucked up photos of people who are being seriously oppressed that are representative of real actions that continue to happen. That are paid for by US, as if the US taxpayer is supporting a parasite to be a parasite on others, and take land. It is fucking insanity.

    Do you think it is right for Israel to take land like a parasite?
    Is is right for Israel to take money from the American people like a parasite?

    I think it is not, and there are many people who actually follow Judaism appropriately who agree. Theirs is a belief that I believe I have posted in another post. Why don't you idiots repost what I posted in that post?

    here's a hint Einsteins:
    Judaism vs Greed

    If I am a racist because I hate fake people who do not even follow their own religion, cool, because many people are racists too. That wouldn't even make me a racist it would make me a religionists or the opposite of.

    1) It is idiotic to show that jews do not support zionism
    2) It is wrong to show that Judaism does not support zionism.

    LOL



    • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

      Sat, May 17, 2008 - 5:12 AM
      "Is is right for Israel to take money from the American people like a parasite? "

      Israel is the only country that gets money from the U.S.?

      "1) It is idiotic to show that jews do not support zionism "

      Those Jews who want Israel gone (the ones you posted pics of) are about as numerous and influential as Jews for Jesus. Maybe not even that much.....
    • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

      Sat, May 17, 2008 - 11:26 AM
      Killa:
      > Do you think it is right for Israel to take land like a parasite?

      No.

      But, it's also very wrong for your to preach bigoted hatred.

      Your diatribes aren't based on the facts of the matter, they're filled with vicious adjectives and hateful analogies.

      How about if we stick to discussing facts, and skip the preaching of hate, eh?
      • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

        Sat, May 17, 2008 - 11:27 AM
        Killa:

        Should we also start dehumanizing Palestinians with names like "dogs" or "parasites"?
        • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

          Sat, May 17, 2008 - 3:12 PM
          <Should we also start dehumanizing Palestinians with names like "dogs" or "parasites"?>

          Imagine what the peanut gallery would say if one DID do that!?

          I mean, it's OK to say such things about Jews.........
          • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

            Sat, May 17, 2008 - 3:36 PM
            "Do you think it is right for Israel to take land like a parasite? "
            "<Should we also start dehumanizing Palestinians with names like "dogs" or "parasites"?>"
            "I mean, it's OK to say such things about Jews........."

            Again..
            The opposite of Israel is not "the Palestinians"..
            And Israel is not a synonym for "the Jews"..

            I think it is kind of disgusting to try turn it into discussion about groups every time somebody critisizes the land theft Israel..It is not about groups, it is about a criminal policy of a government..
            • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

              Sat, May 17, 2008 - 5:23 PM
              Harmen:
              > The opposite of Israel is not "the Palestinians"..

              Killa speaks of the state of Israel. That includes the people, and the government. If he wants to talk about the government, he needs to be more specific.

              So, if he's going to attack Israel as a parasite, I see that as no different than attacking Palestine as nothing but a snivelling parasite.

              How do you feel about that?

              Is it okay to call Palestine a snivelling parasite?
              • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                Sun, May 18, 2008 - 12:45 AM
                "Killa speaks of the state of Israel. That includes the people, and the government."

                No it does not..
                That is the logical fallacy of hate and war..

                You blame all palestinians for actions of Hamas..
                Andrew blames ALL Jews for the warcrimes of Israel.
                Many Jews oppose the criminal policies of Israel..
                Also some Israeli's do..
                As i have seen here..
                www.gate48.org/

                I don't blame ALL Americans for the warcrimes in Iraq..
                Only the ones that supported the war..
                Killa does not blame ALL israeli's for the warcrimes of Israel..
                Only the ones that don't oppose the warcrime of land theft but rather attack people that adress it..

                • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                  Sun, May 18, 2008 - 1:05 AM
                  Harmen:
                  >> "Killa speaks of the state of Israel. That includes the people, and the government."
                  > No it does not..

                  Well, then. Let's just speak of the state.

                  Is it okay to call the state of Palestine a snivelling parasite?

                  Is it okay to call the state of Palestine a vicious dog?

                  When you attack a country like that, don't you also demean it's people?
                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                    Sun, May 18, 2008 - 2:19 AM
                    "Is it okay to call the state of Palestine a snivelling parasite?
                    Is it okay to call the state of Palestine a vicious dog? "

                    The whole world wants a viable Palestinian state but Israel has been destroying that route of peace for 40 years by stealing all the best land. But i rather see you attacking a (currently non existing) Palestine state then i see you attacking "the Palestinians". The first is only stupid, the second i find racist..

                    "When you attack a country like that, don't you also demean it's people?"

                    No..
                    How is it possible that you do not understand that??

                    When i say the US is acting like a horrible monster in Iraq, i do not critize all US citizens..
                    In fact many of them would agree and few would be insulted..

                    On Israel thats different, zionism is a form of extreme nationalistic chauvinism in that sense..
                    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chau...ationalism

                  • This is the maximum depth. Additional responses will not be threaded.

                    wow, that is pretty fucked up

                    Sun, May 18, 2008 - 3:04 AM
                    Adam:

                    Killa just said Israel. I think that would be the state or government. There is no state of Palestine, so your statement doesn't make any sense. But I think it's ok to call Israel a parasite or a vicious dog if that's what it's behavior indicates. It this case that does seem to be the case.

                    So if you want to attack Palestinians you need to restrict your attacks to the people who commit various acts or are aligned with them. I also think it's fair that you also point out the reasons Palestinians attack people in Israel. But you're not able to do that. For you there is an excuse for every Israeli act of violence.

                    If you attack the state that doesn't demean the people. I could attack the US for all it's faults but that doesn't indicate anything about it's people. It would indicate how the ruling class chooses to govern. I'm sure there are many in Israel as there are in the US that support the actions of the government. So how would you address those people? I think the best terms would be misinformed. Clearly in the US the actions of the government benefit only a small group. Yet it is also true that there is wide support for this group. But these people are not responsible for the actions of the government or the ruling class. So attack on the state or government are not attacks on the people.
                    • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                      Sun, May 18, 2008 - 4:22 AM
                      Steve4:
                      > I also think it's fair that you also point out the reasons Palestinians attack people in Israel. But you're not able to do that. For you there is an excuse for every Israeli act of violence.

                      I've said endlessly that there is a cycle of violence, where both sides share the blame.

                      So how about if you just reverse all of that and look in the mirror?

                      Can you point out the reasons that Israel attacks people in Palestine? For you there is an excuse for every Palestinian act of violence.

                      > So attack on the state or government are not attacks on the people.

                      The state includes the people, the government, the land, everything. If someone's objections are against the actions of the government, why not be specific in the criticism or attacks?

                      I find it odd that you disapprove of some sorts of generalizations, but love other generalizations.

                      Harmen:
                      > The whole world wants a viable Palestinian state but Israel has been destroying that route of peace for 40 years by stealing all the best land.

                      Blah, blah, blah...

                      And to Harmen. There are two sides of this story.

                      The "whole world" also wants a viable Jewish state too, but Arabs have been trying to destroy it for 60 years.

                      > When i say the US is acting like a horrible monster in Iraq,

                      To be clear. Killa didn't describe behavior. He actually called the state a parasite. That's a subtle but important difference.

                      Steve4 and Harmen:

                      You guys can't answer a direct question at all, can you?

                      Palestine is a bit of a nebulous entity right now. Let's not argue if it's a state or not.

                      Personally, I disagree with you guys completely.

                      I think that slanderous adjectives applied to any country demeans the people of that country. Talk to anyone with any sort of national pride. What of an Ethiopian who loves his country. How do you think he feels should you hatefully call his beloved country a "wretched parasite"?

                      You guys think that it's fine to spew any sort of hate against Israel. Is this just an ugly double standard that you apply against Israel, or would you be willing to reverse that?

                      Will you answer these direct questions:

                      Is it okay to call Palestine a snivelling parasite?

                      Is it okay to call Palestine a vicious dog?

                      What about Ethiopia. Since you guys are such fans of preaching hate: Do you guys think it's fine to call Ethiopia a wretched parasite?

                      I object to _all_ of this hate. Shame on both of you for supporting and encouraging it.
                      • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                        Sun, May 18, 2008 - 6:18 AM
                        " > When i say the US is acting like a horrible monster in Iraq,
                        To be clear. Killa didn't describe behavior. He actually called the state a parasite. That's a subtle but important difference."

                        This is what Killa said..
                        "Do you think it is right for Israel to take land like a parasite? "

                        He described behaviour..You lie..There goes your credibility..
                        To answer a direct question..
                        It is not right to steal land, no matter how you twist and spin to defend theft..
                        • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                          Sun, May 18, 2008 - 1:02 PM
                          Harmen:
                          > He described behaviour..You lie..There goes your credibility..

                          I was slightly wrong.

                          Here is Killa's quote:

                          "That are paid for by US, as if the US taxpayer is supporting a parasite to be a parasite on others, and take land. ... Do you think it is right for Israel to take land like a parasite?"

                          It's only 90% as bad as I thought.

                          > To answer a direct question..

                          You, sir, can never answer direct questions. You have endlessly proved that you are a biased propagandist who loves to preach hate against Israel, and hold that state to a set of ugly double standards.

                          Will you hold other states the the same standards, or do you think it's only okay to preach hate against groups of Jews?

                          If it describes their behavior, is it okay to call Palestine a sniveling parasite?

                          Yes or no?

                          Can we say that Ethiopia is like a wretched parasite?

                          Yes or no?

                          You don't like hate when it's directed anywhere other than your one target of hate, do?

                          > It is not right to steal land, no matter how you twist and spin to defend theft..

                          Yes, it's wrong to steal land. That's one crime of many in this conflict.

                          But it's also wrong to preach bigoted hate.

                          Once again, shame on you, Steve4, Killa and everyone else who supports preaching hate and dehumanization groups of people.
                          • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                            Sun, May 18, 2008 - 1:22 PM
                            okay, there are two dogs. . .is that more fair? two dogs. .

                            one dog is much bigger and stronger and has longer sharper teeth.
                            this dog gets pretty much whatever it wants and the little dogs mostly cringe and try to heal their wounds.

                            but the little dogs sometimes bark loudly and angrily, and occasionally nip at the larger dog.

                            the little dog is aggrieved. they used to have the whole yard and now they only have a small corner.
                            so the little dog snaps and bites, occasionally breaking the skin. . .even drawing blood sometimes.

                            let's kick the little dog!

                            the rest is all obscurantist bullshit, in my opinion. .
                        • Re: wow, that is pretty fucked up

                          Sun, May 18, 2008 - 3:39 PM
                          I've gotten a bit passionate about this thread.

                          Let me try again to explain why.

                          Steve4, Harmen, and Killa (he's hopeless), you guys seems completely ignorant and uncaring about people's feelings, and downright smug in your hate.

                          The first time I experienced totally positive Nationalism was in Prague in 1993. This was right after the breakup of Czech and Slovakia. I was in a bar, drinking with two French Canadians. When one of us said something about "Czechoslovakia", it felt like the entire bar stood up, turned towards us, and gleefully corrected us: "Czech Republic". They were tremendously happy, and proud of their new country, finally free of Soviet Russia.

                          What if someone walked into that bar and started attacking the Czech Republic; not criticizing specific actions of the government; but viciously slandering the country as a whole?

                          I don't think I would have minded at all, if they took him outside and beat him up a bit. He probably would have deserved it for his ignorant hate-mongering.

                          Now, about Ethiopia. I didn't pick that country at random. I spent quite a while there. It's the only country in Africa that completely escaped colonized. It has a very unique culture, and amazing history. The people are rightfully proud of their country and heritage.

                          Much of Ethiopia is very impoverished. It could be described as "wretched". The country takes foreign aid. it could be called a "parasite".

                          But if you walk into a cafe in Addis Ababa, and start attacking their beloved country, calling it a "wretched parasite", I'd hope that someone would kick your ass.

                          What about Palestine: What if the Palestinians finally get freedom and their own state. They should rightfully be proud of that. Imagine an asshole walking into the celebration of their independence, and screaming about Palestine being a "sniveling parasite"?

                          I'd be just fine if the Palestinians picked up that person, and physically threw him over the fence.

                          The same is true of Israel. I have no problem with someone criticizing actions of the government. But if you wish to attack, slander, and preach hate against a country that millions of people love, then you probably deserve to have your ass kicked.

                          So, if you guys are smug in your hate-mongering, and don't care at all of the feelings of others, then fuck you.

                          And I won't do it, but I hope someone kicks your ass some day. You deserve it for your ignorant uncaring of the feelings of others.

                          Maybe someday you'll see the error in your ways.
                      • wow, that's justice

                        Mon, May 19, 2008 - 6:47 AM
                        Adam:

                        State: from Webster's online
                        5 a: a politically organized body of people usually occupying a definite territory; especially : one that is sovereign b: the political organization of such a body of people c: a government or politically organized society having a particular character <a police state> <the welfare state>
                        6: the operations or concerns of the government of a country
                        8: the territory of a state

                        The citizens of Israel or the US make up the states of Israel and the US. So if I say the US is a vicious dog for attacking Iraq that does not mean the citizens of the US are vicious dogs. The reason for this is because I'm addressing the operations or concerns of the government.
                        So I stick with my previous reply to you that statements about the country or government are not statements against the people.

                        <I've said endlessly that there is a cycle of violence, where both sides share the blame. >

                        I've responded to this several times also. Your view of the situation is one that addresses only the violence and battles. You ignore the reasons for the conflict. When I explain this to you in terms of WWII you go spinning out of control down the street. Everyone hold on as Adam will now pop his top and blow his way down the street. So here we go again.

                        WWII and the Middle East conflict are different conflicts and are probably more different than they are the same. But if we took your view towards WWII we would end up saying the Nazis and the Jews share the blame. It's just not true. Jews may have committed crimes during the war but even if that is true, Jews were fighting for their lives and freedom. Did some Jew somewhere do something that was a crime against humanity? We will never know but 99.99% of any violence committed by Jews was for their freedom.

                        In Palestine/Israel it is the case that violence done by Palestinians is done for their survival and freedom. Their only choice is to lay down and die or fight in the only ways that are open to them.

                        The left is not responsible for spreading hate. That was achieved when the land of the people of Palestine was stolen.



                        • Re: wow, that's justice

                          Mon, May 19, 2008 - 7:36 AM
                          "The left is not responsible for spreading hate.That was achieved when the land of the people of Palestine was stolen. "

                          The hate LONG preceded 1948. The leftists are Johnny Come Latelys in this situation. It goes all the way back to the seventh century. Jesus Christ, Steve4, read a book.
                          • Re: wow, that's justice

                            Mon, May 19, 2008 - 7:40 AM
                            <<The hate LONG preceded 1948. The leftists are Johnny Come Latelys in this situation.>>

                            You're saying that anyone who argues that Israel should abide by international law is anti-semitic?
                            • Re: wow, that's justice

                              Mon, May 19, 2008 - 7:51 AM
                              "You're saying that anyone who argues that Israel should abide by international law is anti-semitic?"

                              Of course not, Nolen. I'm saying that campus leftists (who I wouldn't call anti semitic) are in solidarity with people who I WOULD call ant- semitic........people who are bent on completely destroying Israel(and I find that coalition very strange), as opposed to just changing its policies to abide with international law. Hezbollah and Hamas don't want to change the policies or the government, they want Israel off the map altogether. I'm certain you wouldn't deny that these people exist, would you?