Kurt Cobain proves my point

topic posted Sat, October 27, 2007 - 8:07 AM by  s
Newswekk magazine printed the diaries of Kurt Cobain on Oct. 23, 2002. This one paragraph sums up all I'm saying about liberals:

(I've put in caps, the key sentences):

"I like punk rock. I like girls with weird eyes. I like drugs. (But my body and mind won't allow me to take them.) I like passion. I like playing my cards wrong. I like vinyl. I FEEL GUILTY FOR BEING A WHITE,AMERICAN MALE.I love to sleep. I like to taunt small, barking dogs in parked cars. I like to make people feel happy and superior in their reaction towards my appearance. I LIKE TO HAVE STRONG OPINIONS WITH NOTHING TO BACK THEM UP BESIDES MY PRIMAL SINCERITY. I like sincerity. I LACK SINCERITY...I LIKE TO COMPLAIN AND DO NOTHING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER."

Thanks Kurt for backing my theory that liberals stand for nothing, that they despise white, american males (out of guilt). Of cpurse he has strong opinions 'with nothing to back them up" (liberalism in a nutshell, as I've apptly described for years). The he says he "lacks sincereity". Duh --liberals never know whether they mean it or not--they think if they say "the Iraq war is lost enough times, then maybe they'd be right." And what a surprise that cobain "likes to complain but does NOTHING to make it better."

Before i read the standard "thave your taken your meds" brilliance, contemplate for a 1/2 second that THIS IS WHO YOU ARE --one of your cultural leaders makes that plain to see.
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    Re: Kurt Cobain proves my point

    Sat, October 27, 2007 - 8:39 AM
    "I LIKE TO HAVE STRONG OPINIONS WITH NOTHING TO BACK THEM UP BESIDES MY PRIMAL SINCERITY"

    Well, at least Seth knows what to have inscribed on his grave stone.
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      Re: Kurt Cobain proves my point

      Sat, October 27, 2007 - 9:11 AM
      I'm not on the left, Turkey -- Cobain was. Don't you read?
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        Sat, October 27, 2007 - 10:20 AM
        "I LIKE TO HAVE STRONG OPINIONS WITH NOTHING TO BACK THEM UP BESIDES MY PRIMAL SINCERITY".

        Seth, looking at this sentense you may as well be looking at your own face in the mirror.
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          Sat, October 27, 2007 - 11:23 AM
          A person who ends their own Life has "No Point to Prove".
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            Sat, October 27, 2007 - 12:49 PM
            *********** A person who ends their own Life has "No Point to Prove".*************

            I could never get my head around suicide either. Phil Ochs sang :
            Outside Of a Small Circle Of Friends and Little Boxes and then offed himself.
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              Sat, October 27, 2007 - 2:00 PM
              I wasn't aware that Kurt ever identified any political affiliation for himself....

              and his suicide was certainly evidence of his self-hatred, but could hardly be offered of conclusive proof of much else
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                Sat, October 27, 2007 - 2:20 PM

                It must kill you Seth that Cobain was one of the few, true, great musical geniuses out there. A true great. 100 years from now, if there's still a world, there'll be a memory of Kurt Cobain.

                Go and listen to the song 'Aneurysm' and see why pretty much everyone else should stop putting out laughable, common, pedantic blather as music.
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                Sat, October 27, 2007 - 3:07 PM
                <I wasn't aware that Kurt ever identified any political affiliation for himself.... >

                he didn't but his quotes are indicitive of leftist behaviors and thoughts -- self-hatred, guilt, passion with no facts to back it up...those are particular traits of leftists that are exhibited everyday on tribe.
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                  Sat, October 27, 2007 - 11:28 PM
                  <he didn't but his quotes are indicitive of leftist behaviors and thoughts -- self-hatred, guilt, passion with no facts to back it up...those are particular traits of leftists that are exhibited everyday on tribe.>

                  So you are basing your opinion on your interpretation of Mr. Cobain's lyrics and you have not consulted him as to his actual meaning? I do not think that is very fair.
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                    Sat, October 27, 2007 - 11:33 PM
                    i think it's fair -- it's an i nterpretation and i think the correct one. this is an easy one.
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                      Sat, October 27, 2007 - 11:39 PM
                      <i think it's fair -- it's an i nterpretation and i think the correct one. this is an easy one.>

                      The unfairness of it is that it is your interpretation and not Mr. Cobain's. In the interest of fairness I think that you should ask him instead of putting words in his mouth.
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                        Sat, October 27, 2007 - 11:42 PM
                        he's dead so i can't ask him. i'm interporetating--that's what historians do. it's what op/ed writers do. it's what thinkers do. it's what i do. cobain was a definite lefty, exhibitng all the earmarks of those on the left: guilt, passion without substance...all that i've highlighted in the first post.
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                          Sat, October 27, 2007 - 11:54 PM
                          < he's dead so i can't ask him. i'm interporetating--that's what historians do. it's what op/ed writers do. it's what thinkers do. it's what i do. cobain was a definite lefty, exhibitng all the earmarks of those on the left: guilt, passion without substance...all that i've highlighted in the first post.>

                          My Dear Fellow. Anybody can use a Quija Board. If need be, I can direct you to several very talented mediums. It is just disappointing to me that a person with your depth of vision cannot speak to Mr. Cobain yourself. Well, it is obvious that you make up for it with your many other talents.
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                        Sat, October 27, 2007 - 11:44 PM
                        By the very nature of the word and idea, there is no such thing as a "corect" interpretation of what a crazed, drugged-out genius savant scribbles.

                        Seth, you should leave the country for a spell.

                        You'll find a world filled with millions of people who don't hate or envy the US. They really don't even care. To them the US is this big, rather noisy abstraction that they hope won't bother them unduly.

                        And that's all. Visit other countries--hint: don't mention your Bush love.

                        You'll find people who are curious about you, a bit wary due to all the blood-letting, and willing to give you the shadow of the doubt, as most people do to strangers.

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                        Sun, October 28, 2007 - 12:03 AM
                        Neocondi, you must be joking. You're taking certain, very personal admissions of one individual (a mentally unsound, mortally depressed and incredibly talented individual) and painting an entire political spectrum with those highly personal admissions. Well, to be fair, you're not exactly painting a "spectrum" unless your spectrum happens to include only two colors...red and blue.

                        I appreciate Cobain for the artist he was, just as I appreciate Max Roach (who recently died...*sigh*) for the artist HE was. At no point would it be fair to extract some sort of political validation or invalidation of my own self from their PERSONAL EXPERIENCES, especially in light of the fact that neither proclaimed any political leanings and were simply doing what they did best...offer us small and poignant glimpses into their musical brilliance.

                        Now, if you really feel the need to deconstruct a musician and their music, I suggest you start with Frank Zappa. At least with Zappa you won't have to play a political pin-the-tail-on-the-whatever to serve whatever twisted sense of validation you've got goin on.

                        IOW, if it sounds like a liberal, smells like a liberal or even seems to act like a liberal, it may be due more to your hyper-sensitivity and intense need to separate yourself from the concept of "liberal" than anything else.

                        Just a thought to ponder.

                        -K

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                          Sun, October 28, 2007 - 12:33 AM
                          And it's just plain sick-souled to rifle through the writings of a man with severe mental health issues and horrible addictions who was in such hideous pain he blew his fucking head off. All in the spirit of smirking.
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                            Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:40 PM
                            And it's just plain sick-souled to rifle through the writings of a man with severe mental health issues and horrible addictions who was in such hideous pain he blew his fucking head off. All in the spirit of smirking. >>

                            QFT!
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                  Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:12 PM
                  <he didn't but his quotes are indicitive of leftist behaviors and thoughts -- >

                  Bullshit. I know people that personally knew Kurt, and if ANYTHING, he was a far-left anarchist.

                  This is what you do - you take some words from someone else, and then with NO idea what you're talking about, you assign what YOU want that person's statements to mean. Since you do this so often - basically be dishonest - how can anyone ever believe anything that you say?

                  Spin away man, but know that you're wrong. Sure, as much as you want, pretend that what you say is the truth, but know that you're wrong, wrong wrong in many cases. One can't just say that something is true to make it so.

                  Spin away, man.
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                    Re: Kurt Cobain proves my point

                    Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:14 PM

                    Oh. Wait. Got it. You agree that his belief system was far-left. Good.
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                      Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:23 PM
                      Seth
                      Either provide LINKS to Cobain's "Supposed Remarks" or go back under your ROCK and SLANDER someone else!
                      Poor POOR SETHY! Never MADE IT in the Music World Like NIRVANA Did?
                      Jealous SLANDER is as UGLY as You are Seth!
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                        Sun, October 28, 2007 - 9:44 PM
                        <Either provide LINKS to Cobain's "Supposed Remarks" or...>

                        dir.salon.com/story/ent/m...n/index.html

                        scroll down for the exact quote i cited.
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                          Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:06 PM
                          I never doubted he said what silly thing he said. He was on drugs, wracked by apolitical clinical depression and, as noted, soon to be very dead at his own hands.

                          Do you feel superior picking the wounds of the miserable and then horrifically dead? Is that your idea of an idea?
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                            Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:09 PM
                            J. Edgar Hoover was a self-despising, alcoholic, cross-dressing closet case.

                            Clearly, he is a perfect example of the weak Right who have no ideas.

                            Can you even think clearly enough to see how idiotic this is?
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                          Sun, October 28, 2007 - 11:52 PM
                          <<<Either provide LINKS to Cobain's "Supposed Remarks" or...>

                          dir.salon.com/story/ent/m...n/index.html

                          scroll down for the exact quote i cited.>>

                          That link lead to something about the prophecies of Nostradamus.....which is exactly what this whole thread is starting to sound like.

                          "Five hundred years ago, the great soothsayer looked into a bowl of water and said:

                          Behold, I see the hundred headed hamster of the apocalypse,
                          And lo, within each of the Hamster's mouths there was a red pebble,
                          The hamster rode towards the topless dancer on the Island of Cheese,
                          And verily did the smell of the Hamster's urine inflame the senses!"

                          As you may know, CLEARLY when Nostradamus mentioned the hundred headed Hamster he was referring to Al Qedia.
                          The red pebble? Clearly that means a suicide bomber
                          The topless dancer on the Island of Cheese? Well that means the twin towers in Manhattan.
                          The hamster's urine was obviously the smell of the jet fuel as it burned.

                          This is really disgusting Seth, your tendency to use the dead as animotronic puppets to do your speaking for you. John Lennon is now a card carrying Conservative since his assassination, and Kurt Cobain's private musings in his own PRIVATE diary make him into a 'typical leftie' because his admissions of fragility and self-doubt which not only mark him as a sensitive poet, but make him human, very human. Yet you seek to leaf through Kurt Cobain's posthumous diary cherry-picking the phrases of introspective illumination and the revealing of his true feelings....and dare to somehow point this out as a WEAKNESS, instead of the essential essence of what makes all great art, literature, and music TRULY great.

                          As an artist and musician yourself Seth, you should take as deep a look into your own soul as John Lennon and Kurt Cobain have and reflect that into the music and art you produce.
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                            Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:09 AM
                            <... Kurt Cobain's private musings in his own PRIVATE diary make him into a 'typical leftie' ...>

                            a. Why would my analyzation that Cobain would be on the left (based on his own writings) offend you if you were proud of being on the left?

                            b. Edgar Allen Poe has been dead for 150 years: are we not allowed to analyze his writing to glean more from his infuential works? People write books on influential people's diaries all the time (by the way, Cobains "private" diaries were published as a book by his wife and excerpts were reprinted in Newsweek --it's completely fair game and you know it).

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                              Mon, October 29, 2007 - 12:13 AM
                              You're analyzing fuck-all.

                              You're using Kurt as a dead meat puppet for your usual spew about weal liberals.

                              Either you're extremely dense, on a sense-occluding subtance, the total asshole you present or taking a piss on everyone here for your own necrophilically bizarre reasons.
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                                Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:26 AM
                                <Either you're extremely dense, on a sense-occluding subtance, the total asshole you present or taking a piss on everyone here for your own necrophilically bizarre reasons. >

                                The word you are looking for is necromantic, which is communicating with the dead. I'm not sure what Neocondi is trying to accomplish here as he admits to not ever having spoken to Mr. Cobain, but this can definitely be called necromancy. Necrophilia has a completely different meaning.
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                              Mon, October 29, 2007 - 4:38 AM
                              <... Kurt Cobain's private musings in his own PRIVATE diary make him into a 'typical leftie' ...>

                              >>a. Why would my analyzation that Cobain would be on the left (based on his own writings) offend you if you were proud of being on the left?<<

                              Your analyzation that Kurt Cobain would be on the left does not offend me Seth, but your processes of logic and analysis do.

                              Firstly, you live in a tiny, tiny world where you have to pigeonhole people either into the category of 'Correct Conservative' or 'Looney Liberal'. Not everyone fits into these neatly contrived stereotypical categories. I feel badly for using someone from Tribe as an example, but Ron for example has pointed out that he considers himself to be a moderate. On some issues he agrees with the Republicans, and on others he agrees with the Democrats. During an election he might vote for an independent candidate.

                              There are other countries besides the United States Seth, and to my knowledge the United States is the only Democratic party that has only two parties, unless you want to go back to the Ancient Roman Empire with their 'Optimus' party (Republicans), and their 'Populus' party (The Democrats).

                              Canada for one has FIVE major political parties, and each one of them is to the LEFT of the Democratic party.

                              Consider also the SOCIALIST state of Israel Seth. Notice how there are more than TWO political parties in ISRAEL? How many of these are left wing, how many are right wing? Ever wonder why all of these parties don't just form into two big 'super parties' of left and right?

                              Israel also happen to have a proportional system of representation, meaning that two different political parties will often have to form a coalition government. This is far more democratic than the 'First Past the post' system that is used in the United States and Canada.

                              All we ever hear from you Seth, is 'Left, right, Left, right, Left, Right, Left'.

                              You'd think we were all at boot camp being trained to go off to fight a corporate war in Iraq...perhaps to 'liberate' these 'terrorists' that you like so much. I think even a Drill Sergeant would realize though that you need BOTH the LEFT and the RIGHT in order to march into battle. One foot is not considered too 'weak' to use.

                              Were you the kid in school that insisted that all the triangles should go into the square hole, because only the 'weak' shapes such as circles belonged in the round holes?

                              How would you classify Jesus Christ, as a leftie or a rightie? How about Mohatmas K. Gandhi? Lefty or righty? Where do you think that Adolph Hitler fit on the political spectrum? I will tell you....Hitler was EXTREME RIGHT and EXTREME CONSERVATIVE, just as Benito Mussolini was. Hitler was opposed to Communism and Labor Unions and supported Free Enterprise and Corporations. Was Hitler a 'typical' conservative?

                              Also, just as people do with Jesus Christ and the bible, you are taking what Kurt Cobain said in his diary and using it out of context...to point out how things he said in his poetic musings and possible brainstorming sessions were the admissions of weakness of someone WHOM YOU have determined is a 'typical leftie'.

                              I wonder what would happen if someone started sorting through your trash Seth, or perhaps read something you had written down in your Diary or somewhere that you never expected to have anyone read it? Admissions of fear, guilt, or personal failure? What would future generations think? Don't you ever scribble down random thoughts or jot down words or phrases for the lyrics of a song you might be writing? I wonder how someone hostile to you or merely unsympathetic might be able to twist the meaning of your words around against you?

                              How would you classify Jim Morrison I wonder? Typical lefty? Have you ever read Jim Morrison's autobiography 'No one here gets out alive?' In his song 'This is the End', Jim Morrison mentions a lyric with Oedipal references "Father I want to kill you, Mother I want to fuck you.' Shocking perhaps, but nothing that Sigmund Freud (lefty?) didn't say a hundred years ago and the Ancient Greeks didn't mention a thousand years ago. Do you think that perhaps Jim Morrison as 'the Typical lefty' had incestuous fantasies? Maybe it isn't just the typical lefties that do this, but American poets in general. After all, Jim Morrison did admit to being an American poet.

                              Well Seth, if Kurt Cobain is a 'typical leftie', then the 'typical leftie' is a better songwriter and poet than you could ever hope to be. Ever wonder where songs of substance and depth come from Seth? From introspection and honest reflection of your inner being. Your human self. Until you try this every creative work that you ever attempt will be shallow, tawdry, one-dimensional fluff.

                              Also, if you play 'Helter Skelter' by the Beatles backwards, there is a special message just for Seth Swirksy, well...Seth and Charlie Manson...you know, Charlie Manson the 'typical' Beatles fan.

                              >>b. Edgar Allen Poe has been dead for 150 years: are we not allowed to analyze his writing to glean more from his infuential works? People write books on influential people's diaries all the time (by the way, Cobains "private" diaries were published as a book by his wife and excerpts were reprinted in Newsweek --it's completely fair game and you know it).

                              Sure, you can analyze Kurt Cobain's writings all you want...but you DID mention that you were doing so in order to glean more from his influential works. This seems to be a contradiction from what you were saying earlier, highlighting the fact that someone who we clearly know was a troubled genius who suffered from Chronic Depression had (Surprise!) moments of self-doubt and even self-loathing. I think that Kurt Cobain could look at himself honestly, Seth...and that was the source not only of his pain, but also of his creative genius. He was not afraid to show himself as weak, and having self- doubt.
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                                Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:19 AM
                                <Your analyzation that Kurt Cobain would be on the left does not offend me Seth, but your processes of logic and analysis do. >

                                respectfully, you're a liar James and you can;t bull*hit me: You could care less about my "process" --my analyses is tearing you up however. Cobain 's diary --published by his wife, in the open for all to see, analyze and jack off too, shows the tenets of moidern day, fuc*ed liberalism: he felt guilty being a whie male; he had passion but no follow through; he argued for the sake of it, not even knowing if he even believed it or not. All character traits of modern leftists . Sorry you don't like the mirror being held up to you.

                                <Canada for one has FIVE major political parties, and each one of them is to the LEFT of the Democratic party. >

                                yes, and they (smartly, finally) elected a conservative as prime minister. Leftists bemoan the two party system because they think "more choice" is a good thing. In t-shirts it may be, not in a political system. Since WWII, Italy, with its multitude of party's has had 73 governments. Can you say, instability? The fact is the two party system--of basic left and basic right--works beautifully. It's way more efficient and stable, like our governement. So, it's perfectly acceptable to categorize into Left and Right. I'm not concerned with Independents --there are too few of them. Are there those that consider themselves moderate lefty's? Now whp would that be in the political spectrum --Joe Lieberman? Oh, have you heard? Joe was kicked out of the party, sacrificied for that world beater, Ned Lamont, because Joe supported our winning war effort in Iraq. So, Joe got the boot. That's how "moderate" the democrats are now. In short, there is no room for moderates on the left. Name me a lefty "moderate."

                                <Where do you think that Adolph Hitler fit on the political spectrum?>

                                Last I looked the name of his movement was the National SOCIALIST party (Nazi's). Socialist is liberal on speed.

                                <I wonder what would happen if someone started sorting through your trash Seth, or perhaps read something you had written down in your Diary or somewhere that you never expected to have anyone read it? >

                                No one sorted through Cobain's trash: his wife published his diaries in book form and sold the rights to Newsweek so all could read them. They are open to interpretation. Why this bothers you is clear to me now: lay off my idol Kurt is what you're desperately saying, I guess, trying to keep him pure in your mind. Whatever--not going to happen.

                                <Well Seth, if Kurt Cobain is a 'typical leftie', then the 'typical leftie' is a better songwriter and poet than you could ever hope to be. Ever wonder where songs of substance and depth come from Seth? From introspection and honest reflection of your inner being. Your human self. Until you try this every creative work that you ever attempt will be shallow, tawdry, one-dimensional fluff. >

                                And now we come to the "I'm frustrated" section of our post -- the " it's time to trash Neocondi personally" section. But this is standard fare for lefties in their basic rudeness: because you have NO arguments that stand up, you attack the writer personally. A little tip, "James": you usually lose arguments when you trash the writer personally -- it's unseemingly, but being a lefty, it's probably an incredibly difficult habit to break. It's a learned thing, but it helps my side greatly when you continue to do it so rock on with the personal putdowns -- it's a direct sign of desperation.

                                I've granted you enough time now.
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                              Mon, October 29, 2007 - 8:27 AM
                              KURT COBAIN ABOUT A SON
                              Film Synopsis
                              by Philadelphia Film Festival

                              Intimate recordings of Kurt Cobain reflecting on his life are paired with striking shots of the musician's stomping grounds around Seattle to form a complex portrait of one of America's most notorious Gen Xers.

                              If you are looking for a Nirvana concert movie, this isn't it. There is no Nirvana music in this documentary, but this thoughtful, somewhat experimental film provides an unprecedented view into the psyche of one of the world's most enigmatic musicians. Using recordings made of Cobain during the last years of his life, AJ Schnack manages to use the artist's own words to paint a moving portrait of a tortured, idealistic soul whose dreams came true only to destroy him. It's strangely moving to hear a dead man talk about his life. Cobain doesn't hold back, opening up about his chronic depression, poor health, debilitating insecurities, creative passion and his desires and disappointments. His musings are set against gorgeously filmed images of everyday life in the Pacific Northwest. This nonlinear visual poem perfectly compliments the narrative of Cobain's life, from its inauspicious beginning to its final chapter a few months before his death. Dying young has added a mythic quality to Cobain's life. This ethereal film breaks the documentary mold, and we can only assume Cobain (a true iconoclast) would have wanted it that way.
                              From Philadelphia Film Festival – Posted on April 10 2007

                              Hey Seth go watch the film about a man that has more talent dead then you ever will amass alive. So whats your reason from coming back? As the tibe went on without you, you clearly cannot without the tribe. LMAO
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                              Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:37 AM
                              This is stupid Seth, there are depressed and suicidal people along all fronts of the political spectrum. One could find an example for anything........ a rightie that murders.......because he is against abortion for example. Your only goal is to slime the other side, you have no real dialogue in you.
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                                Mon, October 29, 2007 - 9:47 AM
                                Cobain was a spokesman for a generation, like Lennon in many ways: he's not just a "rightie that murders". He touched people deeply. Mostly bummed out kids. So, it's interesting to see where he was at. His diaries show us a lot, not just of a depressed person, although that is there. But, the things I've been saying about liberals, Cobain has those same traits: passionate arguing without any substance (he admits to it!) -- feeling guilty about being a white male -- that's a tenet for the modern liberal. So these analyzations are completely justified and moreover, dead on. I stand by them completely.

                                Finally, Cobain, like Lennon, was unafraid to say exactly what he felt --that's why the quotes I highlighted are important in showing the leftists mentality: guilty, passionate but devoid of facts. It's your choice whether you want to look in the mirror and face these truths.
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                                  Mon, October 29, 2007 - 3:32 PM

                                  Seth, how can you live being so totally devoid of integrity?

                                  You take these couple of issues, and then pretend that these few issues somehow typify a whole group of people.

                                  If we did that to republicans, you'd never accept it - so why do you expect the Lefties here to accept it? Where's your integrity?
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    Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:09 AM
    Please leave him out of politics as there is nary a mention of it in any of this songs.
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      Sun, October 28, 2007 - 8:31 AM
      Cobain was a public figure --he was clearly a 'we are the world' lefty. his personal diaries, which were published in newswekk (because they were part of a published book), are fair game to analyze --just like people analyze the words, writings and speeches of george w. bush or john lennon or...you name it.

      stop being weak: cobain outs lefty traits (that i've highlighted and it's illuminating.