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I don't understand, really. But there is no other sight that attracts such a wide array of nasty-tempered people.
It's as bad on the left as the right.
Just the primary thing: I'd declared no preference for either candidate and some awful person was screaming that I was an Obamaniac.
I've posted things and been called a fucking sack of shit liar. I've been called a Nazi, a faggot, an idiot, fascist and so on.
In civilized areas, one gets the shadow of a doubt--here, there's always some ill-tempered person ready to spit on you before they've read a sentence or know who you might be as a person.
Meanwhile, the sense of humor here hovers between zero and less.
So fuck it. And for people interested in, you know, *talking* about ideas and such, I suggest you too leave Tribe in search of greener digital pastures.
It's as bad on the left as the right.
Just the primary thing: I'd declared no preference for either candidate and some awful person was screaming that I was an Obamaniac.
I've posted things and been called a fucking sack of shit liar. I've been called a Nazi, a faggot, an idiot, fascist and so on.
In civilized areas, one gets the shadow of a doubt--here, there's always some ill-tempered person ready to spit on you before they've read a sentence or know who you might be as a person.
Meanwhile, the sense of humor here hovers between zero and less.
So fuck it. And for people interested in, you know, *talking* about ideas and such, I suggest you too leave Tribe in search of greener digital pastures.
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:17 AM
Its everywhere dude. Dont take it to heart. I think most people are more reasonable in person and just vent on the internet. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:27 AMWell not all tribes on this venue are the same. However there's no doubt that when Politics (and Religion) are discussed, perfectly nice people can turn into monsters. It's kinds of interesting really, in a sociological kind of way I guess.
Most "rude" posters are hiding behind the semi-anonymity of the internet. They probably would never behave like this way in person (well..some would I guess).
I haven't been on this particular tribe very long and I'm already bored with the fact that it's the same 10 or so members posting and bashing each other. What's up with the rest of the 3000 members here?
You think perhaps they might be turned off by all the negativity here? YOU BETCHA!!
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Thu, June 12, 2008 - 10:21 PM<I haven't been on this particular tribe very long and I'm already bored with the fact that it's the same 10 or so members posting and bashing each other. What's up with the rest of the 3000 members here? >
They have gone the way of Ian. 30 is a large number of current posters. Typically there are about ten people too stubburn and self righteous to be discouraged. while the rest drift out pretty quickly realizing the futility of the debates. Ian I for one will miss your posts even if we didn't agree on much.
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:20 AMRule of thumb:
(1) First, learn how to take it, and ONLY then,
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:29 AMI hear ya man. See people here, myself included I'm sure, can say and print things that they could never do in person. Some would get fired, reprimanded, break relationships, or even get an unwanted nose job. The www is still the wild wild west.
I look for the entertaining side of it. i must admit the democratic nomination race became a sport for me. I missed almost all the NBA finals due to lack of importance at the time. I'm glad Obama won and I think he'll make a fine president. I hope he does not pick Hillary.
I do hope the Celtics win the NBA championship. Good day! -
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 7:16 AM"I do hope the Celtics win the NBA championship."
and how this can change my life
if they win or lose ?
is not this ? a shit concerning ?
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:30 AMHonestly, I write most of it off to the normal social immaturity of the online community. Beyond that, I remember when Clinton came on the political scene, many found his charisma inspiring and his positions rational but others had an outright hatred of him. I think that charismatic people have the effect of either inspiring people or repulsing them. Passions are raised either way. -
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:38 AMThanks for posting, Timster! :-)
If you guys think THIS tribe is rough, try hanging out in one of the Mideast Conflict tribes. They sound like they're ready to start cutting throats some times. Too stressful for me!
I sign on to Tribe.net for entertainment, interesting conversation, and fellowship. This is just the internet folks - just chill out a bit! -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:51 AM>>(1) First, learn how to take it, and ONLY then,
(2) start dishing it out.
I disagree with both stances. There is no reason to spend spare time being insulted by rude people.
And there is no reason why I should want to lower myself to their level.
--Ian
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:51 AMI have seen far worse in political forums on the net, far worse. good luck, if you are lucking for a better site, i hope you find it . . . and please come back and let us know the irl.
as for myself. . .i am much milder here than in real life. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 9:55 AMFor some reason Tribe presents for a certain type of person a chance to act out and become monstrous.
I belong to a few boards for writers and one for general populace. There is humor, respect. Nobody calls someone a Nazi. (Amazing, eh?)
Anyway--deleting account now. Bye. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:01 AMBye, Ian. . .
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 2:00 PMIan, don't leave just yet.
We'll try to behave, we swear.
Right, guys?
It really is this tribe, for the most part.
Though in lesser ways the chaos here
is mimicked around this site.
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:30 AMIan, it strongly depends on the Tribe, and especially, the Moderator.
In two other Tribes in which I am a member, direct name-calling will get a posted warning from the Moderator.
Keep it up, and your ass is gone.
This particular Tribe is one of the worst, but can be quite amusing. And the bios of most of the active posters contain zip info, so they (alts all ?) are totally anonymous, and can rattle of any invective without any chance of disturbing their family, boss, or whomever.
Another member sent me a PM when I joined:
"They're a bunch of fools that post in the Politics tribe...but around election time I can't resist in agitating or supporting those whose voices concur with some small semblance of my own. I mean who knows? people might actually read all this bull and print a mainstream story based on it.
Perish the thought "
Use facts, if they deliberately misinterpret and go to insult, rather than reason - don't respond to anything they say. And tell them the reason why. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:22 PM>> This particular Tribe is one of the worst, <<
do people just join this tribe in order to put it down? why can't you just leave without pissing in the pool?
this is a great tribe. it had a great moderator and it has a great moderator. some people are jerks and I'm sure most of you think I'm one of them. so what? toughen up. I've been in heated exchanges with guys like Rockstar, Gerbil and Cliff and we're still friends. the difference between them and a lot of thin-skinned people is that they are able to disagree without hating someone.
most of the venom probably stems from the fact that people are mixing with people that they would probably never encounter in real life because we all tend to stick to people that are more like us. yeah people suck. but at least they are saying something. all these reference as to how people would probably be roughed up in real life for expressing themselves... I can't believe anyone actually thinks that is a good thing? oh well. keep pretending. -
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 12:34 AMmoderator are like pubic hairs on a toilet seat - sooner or later they're gonna get pissed off.
"this is a great tribe. it had a great moderator and it has a great moderator" -
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 12:40 AM
after they get pissed on.
i really, really like the analogy ::: (some) sarcasm :::
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 1:54 PMI think its just this tribe. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 2:32 PMYeah--honestly man, I think I've only seen this in like, two other tribes--this one just tends to get pretty vicious because people are pretty rabid about their political views in general as a rule. Just try not to take it personally--it's just a bunch of people who don't know how to debate or share their views in a civil manner. Join some other tribes--fun informational ones are great! :)
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 2:43 PMPolitics anywhere is not exactly known for it politeness, niceties and calm reasoned debate. Often quite the opposite and that's exactly what you're seeing here, along with, I might add, the politeness, niceties and calm, reasoned debate.
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 2:44 PMBasically arguing on the internets is one step up from bums in an alleyway passed out half-drunk and cursing at anything that crosses their line of vision. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 3:05 PMIn a piss and vomit-soaked alley packed with trash and cast off forklift pallets, Bum 1 says to Bum 2:
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 3:12 PMBum 2 says to Bum 1: "screw you, you embittered hipster!"
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 5:02 PMBum 1 sez to Bum 2: "You stinkin' bum! I HATE stinkin' bums like you!!!"
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 6:30 PMtaking an internet forum serious enough that you find yourself vain enough to post a topic on you leaving...well...i don't know.
don't take it so personally.
there's plenty of people in here willing and able to partake in some raucous debates. ignore the flamers and trollers and people here just to rile someone up for shits and giggles.
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 7:11 PM
<<But there is no other sight that attracts such a wide array of nasty-tempered people.>>
oh, you meant "site". now this sentence is starting to make sense to me, but.... were you referring to tribe.net in general or to this particular tribe?
<<here, there's always some ill-tempered person ready to spit on you before they've read a sentence or know who you might be as a person.>>
you tended to act in that way at times as well - perhaps this is something you should be aware of.
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Tue, June 10, 2008 - 7:39 PMIt's just the Internet, not Tribe. Some chicken shits have discovered that they can say all sorts of shit to people behind a veil of anonymity on the Internet that they wouldn't have the balls to say to their face. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:23 PM>> It's just the Internet, not Tribe. Some chicken shits have discovered that they can say all sorts of shit to people behind a veil of anonymity on the Internet that they wouldn't have the balls to say to their face. <<
what are we getting at here? are you talking about the psycho weirdos that scream obscenities and follow people from tribe to tribe? or are you referring to people settling down from a good old-fashioned heated exchange?
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 7:26 AM>> Some chicken shits have discovered that they can say all sorts of shit to people behind a veil of anonymity on the Internet that they wouldn't have the balls to say to their face. <<
Is this statement intentionally self-referential - or unintentionally so?
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 8:14 PM
This is a community, and in any community of people that are around each other a lot, shit gets combative - ESPECIALLY about politics. I don't understand why anyone would expect anything less. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 8:16 PMtrue. asshole. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:08 PMOn line and in life, I pay out consideration with consideration and rudeness with denunciation. While, in most times, this is a pretty good system, it's a bastard in politics. Especially in times of great political rancor and now is as bad as I've ever seen it.
I'm guilty as well. Many here are. What I *will* say is I prefer "higher" road I get to take with Corny, Dusty and (often) Yoni. Not out of any superior virtue (which I don't possess), but because it's more fun and stimulating. I can type the Don Rickles stuff all day long and so can some of you, but the true test of wit comes when considering weightier matters, it seems to me.
That being the case, I wish Ian would stay, as he's consistently thoughtful and decent.
<< Some chicken shits have discovered that they can say all sorts of shit to people behind a veil of anonymity on the Internet that they wouldn't have the balls to say to their face. >>
That is, I fear, quite true for many online miscreants. I've met a couple IRL myself and that's precisely what they are. -
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:15 PM
<<I wish Ian would stay, as he's consistently thoughtful and decent.>>
true. well, hopefully he'll come back (as he did several times before).
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Tue, June 10, 2008 - 10:24 PM"true. asshole."
I still think you're a white tranny from poughkeepsie -
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Wed, June 11, 2008 - 12:42 AMkeep me out of your fantasy life. -
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Wed, June 11, 2008 - 7:35 AMlol. I'm rather fond of this particular thread. I hear people being real with their feelings and a lot of good stuff is being said.
It's a pretty mixed bunch of folks here, but frankly it could be a lot more diverse. This is still an over whelmingly liberal crowd. I'm a Moderate Lefty and thus I'm always interested in hearing from as many different points of view as possible. I rarely fully agree with the Right, but I am open minded enough to listen.
I basically like this tribe. The occasional flame wars between certain individuals gets boring though. But as it's been said, discussing politics can be a rough sport.
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Re: Tribe--a rude place not worth the time
Fri, June 13, 2008 - 8:45 AMThis thread is complaining about harsh tone and rudeness.
This, from a person who has launched more vulgar personal attacks than most other people is pretty damn hypocritical and crybaby-ish.
And this thread was begun on June 10 and the OP said he was unsubbing
Well when you going to follow through?
