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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 8:39 PMYou beat me to it! I'm sitting here listening to Nancy Pelosi give her acceptance .. er congratulatory speech.
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 9:11 PMdoes anyone have a breakdown of the bill that passed? -
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 9:28 PMI suppose now we can actually begin to see how this will affect the rest of us in the short and long term cost. I do hope the costs are not going to be what is predicted or even the government control that is supposed to occur.
I do think there willl be wide spread scams occuring as those with less than ethical approaches will find a new cash cow in the Federal Govenrment to suck dry.
I was not for this and am not happy. I do have to accept what was done, and I will work to vote out of office my representitve who voted for this in the next election......
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 9:35 PMHey Dave, why are you worried? Only the millionaires and up will be taxed for it.
Oh and there are no Illegal immigrants.
Only an idiot believes that. Everyone that is not a native American Indian is an Illegal immigrant.
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 9:46 PMone republican votes yes.....Anh Cao of louisiana.
thank you mr. cao.
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 10:12 PM< I do hope the costs are not going to be what is predicted or even the government control that is supposed to occur. >
Gee David, why would you hope that this doesn't reduce the defecit, as predicted? You heavily invested in the Euro or something?
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 10:32 PMI have mixed feelings about this. I am not happy about the cuts to medicare or the fact that the government insurance will be more expensive than private insurance. -
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sun, November 8, 2009 - 12:24 AMLet the policy wonks digest it before passing judgment, either good or bad
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 9:58 PM<does anyone have a breakdown of the bill that passed? >
From MSNBC:
www.msnbc.msn.com/id/337487...are_reform
...The final vote was a narrow 220-215. Only one Republican — Rep. Joseph Cao of Louisiana — voted for the measure; 39 Democrats voted against it.
Earlier, the House approved an abortion amendment and rejected a Republican substitute for the legislation, paving the way to final passage...
..."It provides coverage for 96 percent of Americans. It offers everyone, regardless of health or income, the peace of mind that comes from knowing they will have access to affordable health care when they need it," said Rep. John Dingell, the 83-year-old Michigan lawmaker who has introduced national health insurance in every Congress since succeeding his father in 1955.
In the runup to a final vote, conservatives from the two political parties joined forces to impose tough new restrictions on abortion coverage in insurance policies to be sold to many individuals and small groups. They prevailed on a roll call of 240-194.
The vote added to the Democratic bill an amendment sponsored by Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., and others, that prohibits individuals who receive insurance subsidies from purchasing any plan that pays for elective abortions.
House Democratic leaders agreed Friday night to allow a floor vote on the Stupak amendment to the bill in order to win the support of about three dozen Democrats who feared that the original bill would have subsidized abortions...
...Nearly united in opposition to the health care bill, minority Republicans cataloged their objections across hours of debate on the 1,990-page, $1.2 trillion legislation.
"We are going to have a complete government takeover of our health care system faster than you can say, `this is making me sick,'" jabbed Rep. Candice Miller, R-Mich., adding that Democrats were intent on passing "a jobs-killing, tax-hiking, deficit-exploding" bill.
But with little or no doubt about the outcome, the rhetoric lacked the fire of last summer's town hall meetings, when some critics accused Democrats of plotting "death panels" to hasten the demise of senior citizens.
The legislation would require most Americans to carry insurance and provide federal subsidies to those who otherwise could not afford it. Large companies would have to offer coverage to their employees. Both consumers and companies would be slapped with penalties if they defied the government's mandates.
Insurance industry practices such as denying coverage on the basis of pre-existing medical conditions would be banned, and insurers would no longer be able to charge higher premiums on the basis of gender or medical history. In a further slap, the industry would lose its exemption from federal antitrust restrictions on price gouging, bid rigging and market allocation.
At its core, the measure would create a federally regulated marketplace where consumers could shop for coverage. In the bill's most controversial provision, the government would sell insurance, although the Congressional Budget Office forecasts that premiums for it would be more expensive than for policies sold by private firms.
The bill is projected to expand coverage to 36 million uninsured, resulting in 96 percent of the nation's eligible population having insurance.
To pay for the expansion of coverage, the bill cuts Medicare's projected spending by more than $400 billion over a decade. It also imposes a tax surcharge of 5.4 percent on income over $500,000 in the case of individuals and $1 million for families.
The bill was estimated to reduce federal deficits by about $104 billion over a decade, although it lacked two of the key cost-cutting provisions under consideration in the Senate, and its longer-term impact on government red ink was far from clear.
Democrats lined up a range of outside groups behind their legislation, none more important than the AARP, whose support promises political cover against the cuts to Medicare in next year's congressional elections.
The nation's drug companies generally support health care overhaul. And while the powerful insurance industry opposed the legislation, it did so quietly, and the result was that Republicans could not count on the type of advertising campaign that might have peeled away skittish Democrats in swing districts...
It appeared that the compromise brokered Friday night on the volatile issue of abortion had finally secured the votes needed to pass the legislation.
As drafted, the measure denied the use of federal subsidies to purchase abortion coverage in policies sold by private insurers in the new insurance exchange, except in cases of incest, rape or when the life of the mother was in danger.
But abortion foes won far stronger restrictions that would rule out abortion coverage except in those three categories in any government-sold plan. It would also ban abortion coverage in any private plan purchased by consumers receiving federal subsidies.
Disappointed Democratic abortion rights supporters grumbled about the turn of events, but appeared to pull back quickly from any thought of opposing the health care bill in protest.
One, Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill., detailed numerous other benefits for women in the bill, including free medical preventive services and better prescription drug coverage under Medicare. "Women need health care reform," she concluded in remarks on the House floor.
Republicans offered an alternative that relied heavily on loosening regulations on private insurers to reduce costs for those who currently have insurance, in some cases by as much as 10 percent. But congressional budget analysts said the plan would make no dent in the ranks of the uninsured, an assessment that highlighted the difference in priorities between the two political parties.
It fell by a near party line vote of 258-176.
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Re: Health Care Reform Passes
Sat, November 7, 2009 - 10:09 PM
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